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Old 04-25-2012, 11:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Equal Opportunity Agency states minorities commit more crimes

Therefore it is no longer allowed to do background checks because when you do not hire someone who has a criminal background you are hurting minorities.


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Bottom Line - New rules set on background checks for job seekers
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So, someone who has had a hiccup in their life should never, ever be employed?
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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So, someone who has had a hiccup in their life should never, ever be employed?
I think the point is that an employer has a right to not hire someone due to a criminal background if they so choose as long as they have this standard across the board.

They are stating it is unfair because it attacks minorities.
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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On one hand I find this a total load of BS. I have customers that state in our contracts that we cannot have a felon working on their property plus we do enter sensitive areas at airports so background checks are required.

On the other hand, I firmly believe that once you do your time (no parole), you should be done and your crime shouldn't be held against you. The current system just perpetuates crime by putting people who have paid their debt at a disadvantage leaving them little choices.
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:24 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I'd kinda like to know if someone was a thief before I hired them. It should be the employers decision, their livelihood is at stake. One hiring mistake can ruin some businesses. The company I work for is in the crapper because of one person (with a previous record) stealing. Unemployment is still pretty high, surely there are people out there without this kind of baggage. People have to be accountable for their actions.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:36 AM   #7 (permalink)
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an employer should have the right to not hire someone for any reason
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I believe in redemption and think rationalizing the effect of the background checks is a good thing. Currently, employers use the background check to filter out anyone with any sort of history. This gives them some room to look at the history and then decide if there is a business risk. If there is risk then you don't have to hire--i.e. you won't be forced to hire a person convicted of theft to work in your accounting department.

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The new 55-page document, intended to prevent racial and ethnic discrimination, calls on employers to use criminal background checks only when they can show they are job-related and necessary for the business. For example, the guidelines say employers should consider the "nature of the crime, the time elapsed and the nature of the job."

The guidelines also caution that "arrests are not proof of criminal conduct" and may not be sufficient to exclude a candidate.
I know a lot of people who have felony drug convictions on their records but are now clean, hard working adults and model citizens. Many of them are actively trying to teach their own children how to make better choices then they made growing up. But, they do find challenges getting good jobs that they are more than qualified for simply because the background check gets their application tossed out early in the process. I think someone who made a big mistake and recovered from it probably will make a pretty good employee.
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One wonders if the usual suspect reactionary retards on this board EVER bother to read what they post. From the article:



The new 55-page document, intended to prevent racial and ethnic discrimination, calls on employers to use criminal background checks only when they can show they are job-related and necessary for the business. For example, the guidelines say employers should consider the "nature of the crime, the time elapsed and the nature of the job."

The guidelines also caution that "arrests are not proof of criminal conduct" and may not be sufficient to exclude a candidate.

The EEOC acted in part because blacks and Hispanics are far more likely to get caught up in the legal system. Given current incarceration rates, about one in 17 white men are likely to serve time in prison during their lifetimes, compared with one in three African-American men, the agency said.

Employer advocates were pleased the EEOC did not entirely bar the use of criminal background checks.

“The new guidance may require employers to tweak existing policies, but is largely a collective restatement of the EEOC's longstanding guidance documents on employer use of criminal background checks,” said Katharine Parker, an employment attorney for Proskauer.

The EEOC does not have the authority to ban “all uses of arrest or conviction records or other screening devices,” said EEOC spokeswoman Christine Nazer. “The EEOC simply seeks to ensure that their use are undertaken carefully to ensure that employment opportunities are not denied inappropriately.”



So, the rules require that you have a job related reason to check. If the position calls for someone to go into people's homes, maybe to deliver furniture or do some kind of work, you can still do the check. Even the attorney for employers says it really doesn't change anything other than make sure that there is some kind of relationship between the job and the background check.
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At least I admitted it when I overlooked the tag line.

Doubt anyone will amdit they didn't bother to read the substance of this article, which is that this rule changes very little and is just a formalization of policies already in place and not particularly burdensome or problematic for employers.
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At least I admitted it when I overlooked the tag line.

Doubt anyone will amdit they didn't bother to read the substance of this article, which is that this rule changes very little and is just a formalization of policies already in place and not particularly burdensome or problematic for employers.
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At least I admitted it when I overlooked the tag line.

Doubt anyone will amdit they didn't bother to read the substance of this article, which is that this rule changes very little and is just a formalization of policies already in place and not particularly burdensome or problematic for employers.
actually you railed on the writer without even looking to see who it was. Little different than just overlooking something

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