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Originally Posted by MG1968 I don't think he was joking when he made his original post. Only when he saw how stupid it was did he decide he might toss in a chuckle or two. | It wasn't that funny |
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04-25-2012, 04:23 PM
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04-25-2012, 04:24 PM
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04-25-2012, 04:43 PM
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04-25-2012, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BearCat204 I guarantee I know one person here who thinks it is.........he will probably post a cartoon that barely addresses it. | I'm pretty sure this thread was thrown out for bait. And the one you mention will be the only one to take it.
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04-25-2012, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Slydell Will be interesting to see where he does end up. | One can have a lot of fun speculating.
- In nine years as a Marine, Stein never rose above the rank of E-5; not very impressive and certainly not resume-worthy.
- He is now infamous as a birther who will not follow legal orders simply because he personally feels that the President is illegitimate.
- He has obviously demonstrated a lack of prudence, in favor of rashness that borders on or surpasses rashness.
- The Marine Corps. is sticking him with an OTH Discharge and will probably stick him with a diagnosis of mental instability, low-enough on the disability-scale that Stein will not get any benefits from this, but high enough that many employers will, everything above included in their decision, decide that the risk is too great to take on and insure.
Basically, it is highly likely that Stein could turn from a radical, right-wing nutjob to a leftist, groveling at the hand of the government for food and money in a very short time. It is almost poetically just.
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Originally Posted by chatt-townVOL I have not sat down and read Gould's works or Dawkin's works...It's the uneducated kids running around these days trying to convince other kids...That's why I choose to pursue attacking popular perceptions... | |
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04-25-2012, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by therealUT One can have a lot of fun speculating.
- In nine years as a Marine, Stein never rose above the rank of E-5; not very impressive and certainly not resume-worthy.
- He is now infamous as a birther who will not follow legal orders simply because he personally feels that the President is illegitimate.
- He has obviously demonstrated a lack of prudence, in favor of rashness that borders on or surpasses rashness.
- The Marine Corps. is sticking him with an OTH Discharge and will probably stick him with a diagnosis of mental instability, low-enough on the disability-scale that Stein will not get any benefits from this, but high enough that many employers will, everything above included in their decision, decide that the risk is too great to take on and insure.
Basically, it is highly likely that Stein could turn from a radical, right-wing nutjob to a leftist, groveling at the hand of the government for food and money in a very short time. It is almost poetically just. | Agree. Read quite a few tales of this happening to a number of others screaming of the evils of government programs to help those in need. But, he may become the adopted darling of some individual or group who sees an advantage ($) doing so. |
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04-25-2012, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Slydell Agree. Read quite a few tales of this happening to a number of others screaming of the evils of government programs to help those in need. But, he may become the adopted darling of some individual or group who sees an advantage ($) doing so. | Right, he will either be on the government dole; or, he will be obeying plenty of orders.
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Originally Posted by chatt-townVOL I have not sat down and read Gould's works or Dawkin's works...It's the uneducated kids running around these days trying to convince other kids...That's why I choose to pursue attacking popular perceptions... | |
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04-25-2012, 06:13 PM
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| As I read the article, he was discharged because: Quote:
A statement from the Marines said it approved the findings of a military board, which in March recommended the discharge.
The board found Stein violated rules limiting political conduct by service members.
| Can someone explain why a marine should not be allowed to engage in political conduct as long as it does not interfere with his duty?
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04-25-2012, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bleedorange1983 It actually was a joke. My only mistake was not taking into account how some posters in this thread might take my comment so seriously for whatever reason. | Conservatism- serious business.
I actually chuckled. I would have laughed if it had been a liberal and the MSNBC joke was made. In fact, I find the extremes on both sides a joke. |
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04-25-2012, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BearCat204 And he should have been | Agreed. |
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04-25-2012, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RespectTradition As I read the article, he was discharged because:
Can someone explain why a marine should not be allowed to engage in political conduct as long as it does not interfere with his duty? | I assume it had more to do with his assertion that he would disobey orders. |
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04-25-2012, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JayVols Conservatism- serious business.
I actually chuckled. I would have laughed if it had been a liberal and the MSNBC joke was made. In fact, I find the extremes on both sides a joke. | Well yeah...but the majority around here get their panties bunched up when a anti-conservative joke is made, but will be quick to jump on a anti-liberal agenda. |
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04-25-2012, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RespectTradition As I read the article, he was discharged because:
Can someone explain why a marine should not be allowed to engage in political conduct as long as it does not interfere with his duty? | By definition, political conduct does interfere with military duty. Threatening to not follow orders from the CiC is textbook breakdown of discipline.. The military system's foundation is based on a chain of command. When you openly proclaim that you will not follow orders from the top of that chain and are dismissed, it's your own fault for breaking long standing well established military regs. The rules are different for military personnel. It's no secret. They are well aware of the rules when they enlist as well as the consequences for breaking those rules. Our military would be total chaos without strict adherence to established rules. |
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