Bill to drug test for Tenn. welfare advances

[PimpVol]

Originally Posted by Volst53

Or we could just end welfare and make drugs legal. That'd really save some money.

Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Gramps

The Governor of Florida was wanting to include state employees in their drug testing law and a Federal Court ruled it unconstitutional .

I think it is un-con to arbitrarily test me for anything. Total invasion of my privacy. I also don't think you can tell me which plant to smoke. How is one plant legal when another is not? Who is qualified to decide this for me? A career politician? Hardly.

Originally Posted by milohimself

Oh, fantastic idea. We're already well on our way to becoming the dumbest civilized country on the planet, let's take a quarter of our kids out of high school and university for a half year.

Why are we on our way to becoming the dumbest civilized nation on the planet? Because of weed? Really? A quarter of students use? Wow. I was not aware of that fact -- Anyone receiving benefits from the government should be tested, right? So another controlled group should be the drug testing of Tennessee adults statewide. If you fail, you can receive no police or fire-fighting services for one year for after the first failed test. The first time someone's house burns down because they smoked chronic and thus were denied fire services will be epic. How far are you willing to go? Or do you just stop with poor folks who receive gov't assistance? Huh?

[knucklehead_vol]

Originally Posted by Gramps

Back in the day ole Gramps smoked a little. pot and yes it does impair driving ability. IIRC, I would be driving 20-30 mph and it seemed like I was running 60-70 mph.
it also causes one to feel paranoid, which is not good when driving.

So what was the top speed of the Model T anyway?

[tkemo]

Originally Posted by milohimself

I didn't have to take a drug test for half the jobs I've had.

Oh, fantastic idea. We're already well on our way to becoming the dumbest civilized country on the planet, let's take a quarter of our kids out of high school and university for a half year.

Unless the owner knew me I had to for several jobs. Even a seasonal job at k-mart between football and baseball. If I were job huntin, I'd want to give myself as many options as possible.

Dead right on the last point. People think Idiocracy is a funny movie. Its already here, I'm just waiting for the EPA to mandate watering plants with gatorade.

[PimpVol]

Just got the vehicle registration letter in the mail for next month. 79 bucks for a sticker is BS. Next year it should advise me that TN residents will be required to come in and take a drug test. If I fail then my car can't be registered for a year. That will surely get everybody off of drugs.

[Gramps]

Originally Posted by knucklehead_vol

So what was the top speed of the Model T anyway?

Top speed 134mph, downhill with the windows down and top off.

[hndog609]

Originally Posted by PimpVol

Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!

I think it is un-con to arbitrarily test me for anything. Total invasion of my privacy. I also don't think you can tell me which plant to smoke. How is one plant legal when another is not? Who is qualified to decide this for me? A career politician? Hardly.


Why are we on our way to becoming the dumbest civilized nation on the planet? Because of weed? Really? A quarter of students use? Wow. I was not aware of that fact -- Anyone receiving benefits from the government should be tested, right? So another controlled group should be the drug testing of Tennessee adults statewide. If you fail, you can receive no police or fire-fighting services for one year for after the first failed test. The first time someone's house burns down because they smoked chronic and thus were denied fire services will be epic. How far are you willing to go? Or do you just stop with poor folks who receive gov't assistance? Huh?

A friend of mine recently told me that over the last couple of years 3 of the best workers he had got fired for failing drug tests. It was frustrating to him that some lazy idiots that managed to show up to work on time and avoid doing anything dumb enough to get fired can stay employed when some of the best people he had got busted for doing something he couldn't care less about them doing on their own time.

OTOH I do understand that if you're getting tax dollars (other people's money) it's not altogether unfair to have certain expectations be met. From people I've talked to that actually seems to be the biggest complaint in this context; what you do with your own money on your own time is your business but if it's MY money then yeah, buying drugs isn't what it's for. (anyway that's the most common complaint I've heard)

[hog88]

I've always thought drugs should be legal and sold in stores just like liqour, increase the tax base baby.

But if legalized employers should still be given the option of having a drug free work place without the fear of being sued. I think the same people doing drugs now would be toking away as always and those that do not still wouldn't for fear of losing their job.

[JokermanVol]

While they're at the "conservative" politicians should test and investigate the consuption of everything deemed bad, in any way, by anyone. Cola, sweets, porn, microwaves, etc.

BIG GOVERNMENT!

[WA_Vol]

drug test welfare
make drugs legal

that would make too much sense to do it.

[NEOCON]

I don't view this as conservatives wanting to say who can and cant smoke weed. If anything, it is the democrats anymore who want to limit freedom.


I view this more as not wanting tax dollars to go to people on welfare who use the money to get high.

I personally have no issues if you want to smoke dope on your own time as long as I'm not paying for it and it's not harming others...ie driving while high.

[tim]

Anyone who has a problem with drug testing someone on welfare has an agenda.

[OrangeYankee]

We would save a fortune if we just made drugs legal. Hell I'd plunk down TWICE what it cost for welfare recipients if we did that as the savings would be monumental. The "war on drugs" employs a whole lot of people whose jobs solely depend on the illegality of drugs: Drug Task Forces, DA's, Investigators, "Rehabs," and Labs. It's ridiculous how much money we spend to incarcerate someone over a ten dollar dime bag.

[marcusluvsvols]

Originally Posted by Slydell

I would bet Marcus' right nut that far more people are employed who use illegal drugs.

My best friend from high school is into distribution of things. I know of banking execs, school principals, lawyers, stock brokers etc. Who come to see him weekly to support their daily habit...at the same time, there's a reason why every gas station on the rough side of town has about 400 flavors of blunt wraps. The devil doesn't discriminate. I'm betting between 10 and 20% of the population smokes weed. I smoked my fair share as a teen.

[marcusluvsvols]

For the record, I support this law. Think of how much money "the munchies" is costing taxpayers. Or how many people are trading. 20 bucks worth of taxpayer purchased steaks etc. For a dime bag...need to make it cost effective though. Private companies competing for drug test contracts and no taxpayer funding for rehab IMO. Rehab is expensive. People wanting to get clean might intentionally get a handout and fail so they could get free rehab to boot. For every honest hardworking man out there it seems there's another trying to bleed uncle sam for as much as possible.

[bigorange16]

Originally Posted by milohimself

They don't.

As someone who had to take government issued drug tests once a month for a year earlier in my life, I assure you that they do.

This whole idea is ridiculous. It will cost the government a ton of money to issue tests, when the hardest drugs are out of your system in a matter of days.