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04-16-2012, 11:25 AM
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| | VN conasewer | Number of Wal-Marts tied to number of hate groups Just found this study interesting. Many of their conclusions makes sense Big Box Stores Linked To Hate Groups | Small Business Advantages | LiveScience Quote: |
While big-box retailers might offer the lowest prices, they also may be altering a community's social and economic fabric enough to promote the creation of hate groups, new research shows.
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The amount of Wal-Mart stores in a county was more statistically significant than other factors commonly regarded as important to hate group participation, such as the unemployment rate, high crime rates and low education, the research found.
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A key factor is that many local merchants are forced out of business after finding it difficult to compete against large retailers, according to the study.
Local business owners are typically members of community and civic groups, such as the Kiwanis and Rotary clubs, which help establish programs promoting civic engagement and fostering community values. Goetz said losing members of such groups may cause a drop in community cohesion.
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04-16-2012, 11:56 AM
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| | Diaper Dandy Join Date: Feb 2009
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| What came first, the chicken or the egg? Wal-Mart isn't going somewhere where the demographics doesn't fit their clientele.
edit: And I shop at the wally world. |
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04-16-2012, 12:05 PM
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| Interesting. I would guess that hate groups are naturally most popular among the lower class/poor demographics. Wal-Mart appeals to the poor more than it does the rich, thus poor counties with hate groups likely have more Wal-Marts.
I love Wal-Mart. Keep in mind, Wal-Mart Utah, is nowhere near the same thing as Wal-Mart Tennessee. |
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04-16-2012, 12:09 PM
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| | doo doo doo | The phraseology of "tied to" and "linked to" is too strong for the conclusion. It makes it sound as if big box stores are actively promoting or coordinating with hate groups.
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04-16-2012, 12:10 PM
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| Read the first comment under the article....he says exactly what any one with common sense should think when they see a "study" like this. |
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04-16-2012, 12:10 PM
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| | VN conasewer | Quote:
Originally Posted by Weezy What came first, the chicken or the egg? Wal-Mart isn't going somewhere where the demographics doesn't fit their clientele.
edit: And I shop at the wally world. | I believe what they're getting at it that WM/HD/etc coming in and driving out the smaller stores harms the community feel of many places. Like the article said, you're probably less likely to steal from a place if the owner lives down the street |
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04-16-2012, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by volinbham The phraseology of "tied to" and "linked to" is too strong for the conclusion. It makes it sound as if big box stores are actively promoting or coordinating with hate groups. | could not get the funding if they did not exaggerate the issue......"big box BAD, small business GOOD" |
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04-16-2012, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by utvolpj I believe what they're getting at it that WM/HD/etc coming in and driving out the smaller stores harms the community feel of many places. Like the article said, you're probably less likely to steal from a place if the owner lives down the street | you are less likely to steal in ANY smaller store no matter who owns it.....study is shat |
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04-16-2012, 12:16 PM
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| I've actually seen a lot of economic growth around Wal-Marts. When one gets built, a lot more shops and restaurants come with it. That would cause an increase in population and service jobs.
The Hixson area in Chattanooga comes to mind. Of course there was already a Wal-Mart and stores, but it caused a buildup in a different area. |
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04-16-2012, 12:16 PM
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| | VN conasewer | Quote:
Originally Posted by T-TownVol you are less likely to steal in ANY smaller store no matter who owns it.....study is shat | pretty sure that wasn't even close to my point. Your opinion on this story is noted though |
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04-16-2012, 12:18 PM
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| | VN conasewer | Quote:
Originally Posted by Weezy I've actually seen a lot of economic growth around Wal-Marts. When one gets built, a lot more shops and restaurants come with it. That would cause an increase in population and service jobs.
The Hixson area in Chattanooga comes to mind. Of course there was already a Wal-Mart and stores, but it caused a buildup in a different area. | but what was that area before?
I would guess the addition of a WM to a more affluent area would do less damage than it would in a poorer one |
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04-16-2012, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by utvolpj pretty sure that wasn't even close to my point. Your opinion on this story is noted though | oh, sorry, I know your point was the "if you know the owner" part.....I am just saying that that is an extremely generic point |
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04-16-2012, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Weezy I've actually seen a lot of economic growth around Wal-Marts. When one gets built, a lot more shops and restaurants come with it. That would cause an increase in population and service jobs.
The Hixson area in Chattanooga comes to mind. Of course there was already a Wal-Mart and stores, but it caused a buildup in a different area. | I saw what became of a small town about 20 minutes from where I grew up after walmart set up shop. Small businesses shut down and didn't regenerate to nearly the same degree. Crime went up and the place turned to crap. |
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04-16-2012, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by n_huffhines Keep in mind, Wal-Mart Utah, is nowhere near the same thing as Wal-Mart Tennessee. | What does this mean?
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04-16-2012, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by n_huffhines Interesting. I would guess that hate groups are naturally most popular among the lower class/poor demographics. Wal-Mart appeals to the poor more than it does the rich, thus poor counties with hate groups likely have more Wal-Marts.
I love Wal-Mart. Keep in mind, Wal-Mart Utah, is nowhere near the same thing as Wal-Mart Tennessee. | And walmart Utah is no where near Walmart Cool Spings or Walmart Hendersonville.
But no matter where they are they still suck.
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