1085 users online now!    CONTACT US | ADVERTISE | REGISTER       

About this Page -- This is a discussion on Number of Wal-Marts tied to number of hate groups. within the forum Politics. Just found this study interesting. Many of their conclusions makes sense Big Box Stores Linked To Hate Groups | Small ...

Go Back   VolNation > Off Topic Forums > Politics

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-16-2012, 11:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
VN conasewer
 
utvolpj's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A Start
Posts: 52,548
Likes: 7,921
Number of Wal-Marts tied to number of hate groups

Just found this study interesting. Many of their conclusions makes sense

Big Box Stores Linked To Hate Groups | Small Business Advantages | LiveScience

Quote:
While big-box retailers might offer the lowest prices, they also may be altering a community's social and economic fabric enough to promote the creation of hate groups, new research shows.
Quote:
The amount of Wal-Mart stores in a county was more statistically significant than other factors commonly regarded as important to hate group participation, such as the unemployment rate, high crime rates and low education, the research found.
Quote:
A key factor is that many local merchants are forced out of business after finding it difficult to compete against large retailers, according to the study.
Local business owners are typically members of community and civic groups, such as the Kiwanis and Rotary clubs, which help establish programs promoting civic engagement and fostering community values. Goetz said losing members of such groups may cause a drop in community cohesion.
utvolpj is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 11:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
Diaper Dandy
 
Weezy's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,389
Likes: 176
What came first, the chicken or the egg? Wal-Mart isn't going somewhere where the demographics doesn't fit their clientele.

edit: And I shop at the wally world.
Weezy is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 12:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
Short Sided
 
n_huffhines's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: AZ
Posts: 16,018
Likes: 876
Interesting. I would guess that hate groups are naturally most popular among the lower class/poor demographics. Wal-Mart appeals to the poor more than it does the rich, thus poor counties with hate groups likely have more Wal-Marts.

I love Wal-Mart. Keep in mind, Wal-Mart Utah, is nowhere near the same thing as Wal-Mart Tennessee.
__________________
n_huffhines is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 12:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
doo doo doo
 
volinbham's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: looking out my backdoor
Posts: 31,985
Likes: 1,469
The phraseology of "tied to" and "linked to" is too strong for the conclusion. It makes it sound as if big box stores are actively promoting or coordinating with hate groups.
__________________
"Every American has the right to know when their government believes it has the right to kill them"

--Sen. Ron Wyden (D) Oregon
volinbham is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 12:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
Conspiracy?
 
T-TownVol's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: ATL
Posts: 11,808
Likes: 114
Read the first comment under the article....he says exactly what any one with common sense should think when they see a "study" like this.
T-TownVol is offline  
VN Likes: 1
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 12:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
VN conasewer
 
utvolpj's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A Start
Posts: 52,548
Likes: 7,921
Quote:
Originally Posted by Weezy View Post
What came first, the chicken or the egg? Wal-Mart isn't going somewhere where the demographics doesn't fit their clientele.

edit: And I shop at the wally world.
I believe what they're getting at it that WM/HD/etc coming in and driving out the smaller stores harms the community feel of many places. Like the article said, you're probably less likely to steal from a place if the owner lives down the street
utvolpj is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 12:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
Conspiracy?
 
T-TownVol's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: ATL
Posts: 11,808
Likes: 114
Quote:
Originally Posted by volinbham View Post
The phraseology of "tied to" and "linked to" is too strong for the conclusion. It makes it sound as if big box stores are actively promoting or coordinating with hate groups.
could not get the funding if they did not exaggerate the issue......"big box BAD, small business GOOD"
T-TownVol is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 12:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
Conspiracy?
 
T-TownVol's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: ATL
Posts: 11,808
Likes: 114
Quote:
Originally Posted by utvolpj View Post
I believe what they're getting at it that WM/HD/etc coming in and driving out the smaller stores harms the community feel of many places. Like the article said, you're probably less likely to steal from a place if the owner lives down the street
you are less likely to steal in ANY smaller store no matter who owns it.....study is shat
T-TownVol is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 12:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
Diaper Dandy
 
Weezy's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,389
Likes: 176
I've actually seen a lot of economic growth around Wal-Marts. When one gets built, a lot more shops and restaurants come with it. That would cause an increase in population and service jobs.

The Hixson area in Chattanooga comes to mind. Of course there was already a Wal-Mart and stores, but it caused a buildup in a different area.
Weezy is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 12:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
VN conasewer
 
utvolpj's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A Start
Posts: 52,548
Likes: 7,921
Quote:
Originally Posted by T-TownVol View Post
you are less likely to steal in ANY smaller store no matter who owns it.....study is shat
pretty sure that wasn't even close to my point. Your opinion on this story is noted though
utvolpj is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 12:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
VN conasewer
 
utvolpj's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A Start
Posts: 52,548
Likes: 7,921
Quote:
Originally Posted by Weezy View Post
I've actually seen a lot of economic growth around Wal-Marts. When one gets built, a lot more shops and restaurants come with it. That would cause an increase in population and service jobs.

The Hixson area in Chattanooga comes to mind. Of course there was already a Wal-Mart and stores, but it caused a buildup in a different area.
but what was that area before?

I would guess the addition of a WM to a more affluent area would do less damage than it would in a poorer one
utvolpj is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 12:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
Conspiracy?
 
T-TownVol's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: ATL
Posts: 11,808
Likes: 114
Quote:
Originally Posted by utvolpj View Post
pretty sure that wasn't even close to my point. Your opinion on this story is noted though
oh, sorry, I know your point was the "if you know the owner" part.....I am just saying that that is an extremely generic point
T-TownVol is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 04:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
smh
 
milohimself's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Oregon
Posts: 47,612
Likes: 1,994
Quote:
Originally Posted by Weezy View Post
I've actually seen a lot of economic growth around Wal-Marts. When one gets built, a lot more shops and restaurants come with it. That would cause an increase in population and service jobs.

The Hixson area in Chattanooga comes to mind. Of course there was already a Wal-Mart and stores, but it caused a buildup in a different area.
I saw what became of a small town about 20 minutes from where I grew up after walmart set up shop. Small businesses shut down and didn't regenerate to nearly the same degree. Crime went up and the place turned to crap.
milohimself is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 04:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
RespectTradition's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,833
Likes: 95
Quote:
Originally Posted by n_huffhines View Post
Keep in mind, Wal-Mart Utah, is nowhere near the same thing as Wal-Mart Tennessee.
What does this mean?
__________________
If you live only in the moment, with no respect for tradition and the players/coaches of yesteryear, then you may as well be a fair weather fan and just follow whichever team is good this year, because without our past, then we are all the same.
RespectTradition is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Old 04-16-2012, 04:47 PM   #15 (permalink)
You can call me Cracker
 
NEOCON's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 9,823
Likes: 1,633
Quote:
Originally Posted by n_huffhines View Post
Interesting. I would guess that hate groups are naturally most popular among the lower class/poor demographics. Wal-Mart appeals to the poor more than it does the rich, thus poor counties with hate groups likely have more Wal-Marts.

I love Wal-Mart. Keep in mind, Wal-Mart Utah, is nowhere near the same thing as Wal-Mart Tennessee.
And walmart Utah is no where near Walmart Cool Spings or Walmart Hendersonville.

But no matter where they are they still suck.
__________________
Punctuation is so 2010
NEOCON is offline  
Reply With Quote TOP
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27