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03-09-2012, 02:52 PM
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#31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire  Really need a church of christ member in here. | will a former one do  | 
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03-09-2012, 02:55 PM
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#32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by T-TownVol will a former one do | Need the conviction | |
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03-09-2012, 02:57 PM
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#33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire Need the conviction | I got the E-viction | |
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03-09-2012, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by T-TownVol I got the E-viction | exactly | |
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03-09-2012, 03:02 PM
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#35 (permalink)
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| Not ducking out, must go watch daughter play lax. I will check back later. | |
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03-09-2012, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by T-TownVol That is what Romans 1:18-20 covers. All they have to do in acknowledge God. They can not confess the Gospel if they have never heard it. | All I got from that scripture is people don't have excuses for not acknowledging God. I don't get where you are getting that acknowledging God replaces the requirement of accepting Christ if you never heard of Christ. | 
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03-09-2012, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nbakerld All I got from that scripture is people don't have excuses for not acknowledging God. I don't get where you are getting that acknowledging God replaces the requirement of accepting Christ if you never heard of Christ. | How can someone accept Christ if they do not know of his existance? I clearly stated that I believe, because of the verses I mantioned, that the standards are different for those that have never been made aware of JC, therefore, have no chance to accept him. Acknowledging God is all they can do. | |
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03-09-2012, 10:07 PM
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| | a pathetic case, am I not
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Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire Really need a church of christ member in here. | Sup? | |
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03-09-2012, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by T-TownVol will a former one do | Actually. My kids attend a curch of Christ school but I'm not in line with their doctrine. We go to a Baptist church for Red but can probably answer OEs question.
We are so similar OE will accuse us of being alters. | |
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03-09-2012, 10:14 PM
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| Never understood the Mormon thing, but do what you do.
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03-09-2012, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by T-TownVol YES
Religion is man made......Christians are Christ like.......the world calls being a Christian the same as being religious but that is not Biblical.......like I said, many people that call themselves Christians are very very very religious and are no where near being a Christian | James 1:27
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
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03-09-2012, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by nbakerld That's exactly what I'm asking. What about the Indonesian guy in 1583 that never heard of Jesus. Apparently you say he doesn't have to accept Jesus, just acknowledge God's existence. From what I understand of the Bible, you have to accept Jesus. No exceptions. | I have always thought this passage was applicable here:
James 2
12 For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; 13 for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified. 14 For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, 15 in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, 16 on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.
I think that those who do not have the Bible or a teacher 'do not have the Law'.
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If you live only in the moment, with no respect for tradition and the players/coaches of yesteryear, then you may as well be a fair weather fan and just follow whichever team is good this year, because without our past, then we are all the same. | |
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03-09-2012, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire Really need a church of christ member in here. | Sorry I was late, been out with friends.
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03-09-2012, 10:59 PM
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| | My Facts > Your Facts
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03-10-2012, 08:33 AM
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#45 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by RespectTradition I have always thought this passage was applicable here:
James 2
12 For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; 13 for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified. 14 For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, 15 in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, 16 on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.
I think that those who do not have the Bible or a teacher 'do not have the Law'. | That also explains it well. Romans actually speaks to salvation when it says that they have "no excuse" for not believing in God even though they "do not have the law".
People keep going back to the "accept Jesus" line, they are not taking into account that God and Jesus are one in the trinity. | |
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