Ron Paul Can't Win

[OrangeYankee]

Paul is too all over the map to win this via the traditional Primaries then on to General as it stands now. He's way too opposite (I don't want to say left) on some issues for him to gain much traction in the primaries. Most all Republicans love his fiscal policy, however, when you start getting into his stances on Foreign Policy/National Security that's where he falls off the cliff. Heck, I'm more open to him than most Conservatives, and I see the overall gist of his Military stance. But going the way he wants too, I think is a good deal of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater."

[lawgator1]

Originally Posted by OrangeYankee

Paul is too all over the map to win this via the traditional Primaries then on to General as it stands now. He's way too opposite (I don't want to say left) on some issues for him to gain much traction in the primaries. Most all Republicans love his fiscal policy, however, when you start getting into his stances on Foreign Policy/National Security and personal privacy rights that's where he falls off the cliff. Heck, I'm more open to him than most Conservatives, and I see the overall gist of his Military stance. But going the way he wants too, I think is a good deal of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater."

fyp

See, that's the real truth here.

For all their hoopla about being all about fiscal restraint and balanced budget, the hard right will never put up a guy that is saying -- and truly means -- everything they believe in on fiscal policy....

Because he won't f with gays, abortion, marijuana, and all their values oriented buggaboos.

Fiscal conservatism is great rhetoric, but when push comes to shove the far right in the GOP still wants to tell you how to live your life, indeed far more than do their Democratic counterparts.

[VolsByNature]

I pray Ron Paul wins. But, I think there is a force that is determined to not let him win. Hopefully we can educate some people and get them on the Ron Paul boat. Get our country back...

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Originally Posted by VolsByNature

I pray Ron Paul wins. But, I think there is a force that is determined to not let him win. Hopefully we can educate some people and get them on the Ron Paul boat. Get our country back...

His momentum is growing. Thing is, people are so used to the status quo of politicians lying their a** off And cutting back room deals they don't really know how to respond to a man that tells the painful truth.

IMO, most people are quite happy with the government taking care of them from cradle to grave and they don't want to give up the gravy train.
If America truly wants a (true) conservative to get our financial house in order and stop all these UNDECLARED wars and respect the constuition Dr. Paul is the only choice. I pray that he wins, but I don't know....
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[GAVol]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

In the end, too many far right gaffes by Perry, Romney keeps his head down, and Romney wins a rather lukewarm victory for the nomination, but with the TPers and far right otherwise feeling very dissatisfied.

Romney gives them the finger by picking Hunstman as his VP. There is a month or so of third party speculation, but Romney promises the TP something like a balanced budget or abortion laws (or both) and mollifies them enough to stave off any serious third party talk.

If Romney wins the nomination and picks somebody like Huntsman, he might as well pin a sign to his forehead at the convention begging for a 3rd party candidate from the TP.

[GAVol]

Originally Posted by VolsByNature

I pray Ron Paul wins. But, I think there is a force that is determined to not let him win. Hopefully we can educate some people and get them on the Ron Paul boat. Get our country back...

The conspiracy talk is part of what keeps him from gaining more traction IMO.

[volinbham]

Romney would not pick Huntsman - they are too similar. Also, the coveted Utah vote ain't worth a VP pick.

He'll go Rubio or someone else from a large swing state.

Rubio would bring the TP and destroy Biden in a VP debate.

[GAVol]

Originally Posted by volinbham

Romney would not pick Huntsman - they are too similar. Also, the coveted Utah vote ain't worth a VP pick.

He'll go Rubio or someone else from a large swing state.

Rubio would bring the TP and destroy Biden in a VP debate.

I think the Romney/Huntsman ticket was just LG's fantasy about how the GOP could screw the pooch.

[VolsSportsFan]

Originally Posted by lawgator1

fyp

See, that's the real truth here.

For all their hoopla about being all about fiscal restraint and balanced budget, the hard right will never put up a guy that is saying -- and truly means -- everything they believe in on fiscal policy....

Because he won't f with gays, abortion, marijuana, and all their values oriented buggaboos.

Fiscal conservatism is great rhetoric, but when push comes to shove the far right in the GOP still wants to tell you how to live your life, indeed far more than do their Democratic counterparts.

Incorrect. While the far right goes in with drugs, gay marriage, etc, the far left want to tell you how much money you can have, how much energy you use, what you can eat, what you can think, what you can say. The far left wants to control your life just as much as the far right, don't kid yourself.

[VolsByNature]

Originally Posted by DEFENDTHISHOUSE

His momentum is growing. Thing is, people are so used to the status quo of politicians lying their a** off And cutting back room deals they don't really know how to respond to a man that tells the painful truth.

IMO, most people are quite happy with the government taking care of them from cradle to grave and they don't want to give up the gravy train.
If America truly wants a (true) conservative to get our financial house in order and stop all these UNDECLARED wars and respect the constuition Dr. Paul is the only choice. I pray that he wins, but I don't know....
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Well said

[VolsByNature]

Originally Posted by GAVol

The conspiracy talk is part of what keeps him from gaining more traction IMO.

Or the media...

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

I would like to encourage anyone that has questions about Dr. Paul's stance on issues, and cannot really get to much from a 30 second sound bite, pick up his new book "Liberty Defined" he explains his stance on 50 of the most crucial issues facing our country today.
Great read, you may be surprised, he's not as crazy as the corporate media portray's him to be.
Cheers
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[KiffinKiller]

Paul can't win because the f'ing media intentionally ignores him. They also think it's funny.

[n_huffhines]

Originally Posted by DEFENDTHISHOUSE

I would like to encourage anyone that has questions about Dr. Paul's stance on issues, and cannot really get to much from a 30 second sound bite, pick up his new book "Liberty Defined" he explains his stance on 50 of the most crucial issues facing our country today.
Great read, you may be surprised, he's not as crazy as the corporate media portray's him to be.
Cheers
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+1

I am willing to bet most conservatives who think Ron Paul is crazy, would change their mind after reading this or Revolution: A Manifesto.

[MystifyingVol]

Originally Posted by nbakerld

+1
Revolution: A Manifesto.

That's what got me hooked.... Just too much damn sense to ignore.
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