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08-13-2011, 06:34 PM
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I heard an interesting hypothetical the other day and I thought I would see what you good people think about it.
You and a friend are out canoeing. You have been watching the map and are sure that you are about 5 minutes away from a 100 foot falls that you have to portage around. Your friend, who you don't think has very good map skills, thinks that you are 15 minutes away from the falls. Do you compromise and canoe for another 10 minutes or do you stick to your guns?
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08-13-2011, 06:53 PM
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| You compromise . . . unless your friend's idea amounts to just using smaller paddles. | |
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08-13-2011, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GAVol  You compromise . . . unless your friend's idea amounts to just using smaller paddles. | You compromise? But if you are right and you are 5 min from the falls, then at 5 min 1 sec you are freefalling 100 feet.
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08-13-2011, 07:01 PM
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| Yeah, I wouldn't compromise. | 
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08-13-2011, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RespectTradition You compromise? But if you are right and you are 5 min from the falls, then at 5 min 1 sec you are freefalling 100 feet. | unless both you and your friend are too stupid to see the falls (which you will hear long before you see) | |
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08-13-2011, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MG1968 unless both you and your friend are too stupid to see the falls (which you will hear long before you see) | You do realize that the point of a hypothetical isn't a literal real-world scenario? If one wants to be specific enough you could say things like, you are both deaf and met at deaf camp, and the falls is around a sharp bend and you can't see it till you get up on it, and the current at the falls is too strong to paddle out of.... blah, blah, blah. The idea is rather, if you are certain you are right and that choosing wrong can be disastrous, do you compromise or do what you think it right. But I think you knew all that.
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08-13-2011, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RespectTradition You do realize that the point of a hypothetical isn't a literal real-world scenario? If one wants to be specific enough you could say things like, you are both deaf and met at deaf camp, and the falls is around a sharp bend and you can't see it till you get up on it, and the current at the falls is too strong to paddle out of.... blah, blah, blah. The idea is rather, if you are certain you are right and that choosing wrong can be disastrous, do you compromise or do what you think it right. But I think you knew all that. | I would get out of the canoe, swim to safety, and let my "friend" explore Darwinism himself. | |
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08-13-2011, 07:19 PM
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| you tell the person who doesnt know much about map reading they are wrong and you take control of the canoe to save it.
and let's be honest, the guy who cant read a stupid map is a democrat.
that was the first mistake.
stepping into a canoe with a democrat. | |
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08-13-2011, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MG1968 I would get out of the canoe, swim to safety, and let my "friend" explore Darwinism himself. | I like that answer.
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08-13-2011, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by IPorange So you think America should cease to function. Got it. | How did you possibly get that from the question?
I bet there are things you are unwilling to compromise on. Does that mean you are unwilling to compromise on everything? Are the consequences of being wrong or accepting a compromise always equal? If someone proposes a bill that says congresscritters are in office till death and their children inherit their seats (with an injunction on adjuducation by the SCOTUS), and most people are against and say ABSOLUTELY NOT, are those people wanting America to cease functioning? Should they compromise to a bill where the congresscritters keep their office for life, but their successors must be voted on?
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08-13-2011, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RespectTradition How did you possibly get that from the question?
I bet there are things you are unwilling to compromise on. Does that mean you are unwilling to compromise on everything? Are the consequences of being wrong or accepting a compromise always equal? If someone proposes a bill that says congresscritters are in office till death and their children inherit their seats (with an injunction on adjuducation by the SCOTUS), and most people are against and say ABSOLUTELY NOT, are those people wanting America to cease functioning? Should they compromise to a bill where the congresscritters keep their office for life, but their successors must be voted on? | reductio ad monarchum? | |
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08-13-2011, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NEOCON you tell the person who doesnt know much about map reading they are wrong and you take control of the canoe to save it.
and let's be honest, the guy who cant read a stupid map is a democrat.
that was the first mistake.
stepping into a canoe with a democrat. | Lol. Posted via VolNation Mobile | |
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08-13-2011, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by IPorange reductio ad monarchum? | Resistance is futile.
It's the black flag position. Posted via VolNation Mobile | |
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08-13-2011, 10:59 PM
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| | Wave yo hands in the aiya
| Not sure how there is a dilemma here. The friend is an idiot if he doesn't take the route of no risk. | |
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