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04-17-2011, 01:25 PM
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| Conflict spreads farther across North Africa. FRANCE 24 - Soldiers killed in attack on Algerian army post Quote:
Islamist extremists attacked an army post and killed at least 13 soldiers watching the Algerian president’s televised speech promising reforms, security officials said Saturday.
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On Saturday, security forces swept areas including the Yakourene forest, a hideout of al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, in a search for other suspects, the officials said.
It was the deadliest attack on security forces since July 2009, when at least 14 soldiers were reported killed in an ambush on a military convoy in Damous, near the northern coastal city of Tipaza.
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An estimated 200,000 people - insurgents, civilians and soldiers - were killed after violence erupted in 1992, when the army canceled the country’s first multiparty elections and stepped in to prevent a likely victory by a Muslim fundamentalist party.
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There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attack, but most attacks in Algeria are blamed on al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb.
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04-17-2011, 01:31 PM
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| By saying that conflict spreads further across North Africa, you imply that this is related to the rest of the conflicts (Egypt, Libya, etc) and not just a terrorist attack. Correct? |
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04-17-2011, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLatile By saying that conflict spreads further across North Africa, you imply that this is related to the rest of the conflicts (Egypt, Libya, etc) and not just a terrorist attack. Correct? | Do you think this is a part of the 'Jasmine revolution?'
The AP didn't call them terrorists, they called them islamists.
Which of these countries do you think lives in a vacuum?
Let's look at recent events in Egypt: FRANCE 24 - Egypt dissolves Mubarak?s political party Quote:
An Egyptian court ordered the dissolving of the country’s former ruling party and the confiscation of its assets on Saturday, meeting a major demand of the protest movement that ousted President Hosni Mubarak.
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The court verdict ordering its dissolving appeared to signal that the military was moving more quickly to meet protester demands after a dramatic rise in tensions between the two sides.
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The Supreme Administrative Court announced the verdict, ordering the NDP disbanded and the confiscation of its assets and offices by the state.
| Who is the most organized of the Mubarak opposition??
The muslim brotherhood is who most people agree fits that bill.
Are not the rank and file of the mb not islamists? |
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04-17-2011, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gsvol Do you think this is a part of the 'Jasmine revolution?'
The AP didn't call them terrorists, they called them islamists.
Which of these countries do you think lives in a vacuum?
Let's look at recent events in Egypt: FRANCE 24 - Egypt dissolves Mubarak?s political party
Who is the most organized of the Mubarak opposition??
The muslim brotherhood is who most people agree fits that bill.
Are not the rank and file of the mb not islamists? | Quote: |
There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attack, but most attacks in Algeria are blamed on al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb.
| What does that have to do with the uprising in other countries? |
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04-18-2011, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLatile What does that have to do with the uprising in other countries? | Do you not think that al-qaeda in maghreb is affiliated with the al-qeda rebels in Libya??
If they are in colusion, and who would think they are not, wouldn't it be dandy for them to establish a presence at kadaffi's back in eastern Algeria??
A two front war would be to their liking and the overthrow of another regime (in Algeria) and the establishment of another islamist regime would be their ultimate plan, would it not?
The rebels in Libya had advanced 100 miles recently with nato air cover but a sand storm has grounded nato planes and kadaffi's troops have won that back and then some, advancing to the last major objective before the main rebel base of opperations, nato planes can't do much presently because the opposing forces are engaged in close quarter fighting in a major civilian area. |
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04-18-2011, 05:50 PM
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| More pictures gs. We need more pictures.
__________________ I just wanna get up to my shack and get drunk |
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04-19-2011, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 666 More pictures gs. We need more pictures. | Here is something on your level:
"The president's strategy is absolutely clear about
the threat we face. Our enemy is not terrorism
because terrorism is but a tactic. Our enemy is
not terror because terror is a state of mind and,
as Americans, we refuse to live in fear. Nor do
we describe our enemy as jihadists or Islamists
because jihad is holy struggle, a legitimate tenet
of Islam meaning to purify oneself or one's
community."
-- May 26, 2010, John Brennan,
Assistant to the President  [/IMG] |
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04-19-2011, 01:02 PM
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| disapointed. not a single picture with obama with big ears and flies |
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04-19-2011, 02:01 PM
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| | smh | And some recycled ones to boot. |
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04-19-2011, 02:02 PM
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| | Senior Member | Oh goodie, another rabid gsvol "All Muslims are Evil" thread. |
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04-20-2011, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by droski disapointed. not a single picture with obama with big ears and flies |
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Originally Posted by milohimself And some recycled ones to boot. | [IMG]http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20110418/i/r3872591242.jpg?x=400&y=259&q=85&sig=oopXaUMhdFcDM DOwo3pwEA--
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 Oh goodie, another rabid gsvol "All Muslims are Evil" thread. |
It's not that moslems are evil, I've never said that,
it is that islam itself is evil. Gates of Vienna: The Westward Push of Islam Quote:
Throughout Allah Is Dead, we are forced to face
why the West appears so effete in confronting
Islam, not to mention its own pathologies.
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If we consider that spirituality is, for many people,
concretized in a (political) multiculturalism that
embraces all of the religions as expressions of a
universal truth, Bynum’s assertion appears to be
accurate, although perhaps it is not always
“unrecognized”.
In the political multicultural worldview, morality is represented through “anti-racist” and anti-religious-
hatred legislation that often appear to be used or
misused to attack the established culture and religion.
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The question is: shall we allow Christ to define
himself as the historical record of his life and teachings
indicate, or shall we allow Muslims to define him for us
as Isa, the ‘Palestinian Muslim,’ divorced from Judaism,
with no historical foundation for this assertion
whatsoever?”
This phenomenon is of crucial importance, especially
in relation to Hamas and Palestinian Islamic militancy.
Like the Palestinians, the Nazis also remade Jesus in
their image — in the latter case, as a Germanic hero
who rejected the Jews. But the notion of Jesus as a
Palestinian “freedom fighter” is far more innocuous,
and regurgitated by fashionable Left-wing students
in the West.
Bynum contrasts Mohammed with Jesus, noting that
the latter “did not repudiate the Jewish scriptures”.
(The Koran portrays Islam as the authentic Abrahamic
faith and Judaism and Christianity as corruptions
or “schisms” of Islam.) This, and Jesus’s “historical
Jewishness” are essential components of Christianity,
and, thus, of Western civilization, Bynum suggests.
As such, she reasserts the “Judeo-Christian” tradition,
the very notion of which we find attacked in the media
for not including Islam as an “Abrahamic faith.”
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The West is hollowing itself out from the inside,
confusing politics with religion, and even belief
with unbelief. Atheists, not Christian students,
she observes, are the most likely group on campus
to believe in the paranormal (the embrace of Islam
by socialists is undoubtedly another example of
this confusion).
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All in all, Allah Is Dead: Why Islam is not a Religion
is a complex and challenging book, but one that
tackles the crisis of the West and the Westward
push of Islam thoughtfully and seriously.
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04-20-2011, 04:44 PM
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Nam esse vitium et non nocere non potest Quote:
Originally Posted by chatt-townVOL I have not sat down and read Gould's works or Dawkin's works...It's the uneducated kids running around these days trying to convince other kids...That's why I choose to pursue attacking popular perceptions... | |
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04-20-2011, 04:45 PM
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Nam esse vitium et non nocere non potest Quote:
Originally Posted by chatt-townVOL I have not sat down and read Gould's works or Dawkin's works...It's the uneducated kids running around these days trying to convince other kids...That's why I choose to pursue attacking popular perceptions... | |
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