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Old 04-07-2011, 09:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Trump Sends Investigators to Hawaii, Gains in GOP Presidential Primary Poll - FoxNews.com

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Old 04-07-2011, 09:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So Obama spent $2mil covering up the fact that he is not a natural born citizen.

What then if Trump spends $2mil and can't find anything?
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I just hope his creditors don't have to finance another bankruptcy due to his apparent idiocy.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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So Obama spent $2mil covering up the fact that he is not a natural born citizen.

What then if Trump spends $2mil and can't find anything?
Does it matter if he's not a natural born citizen? Does it matter that he tried to cover it up, if true?

I'm super anxious to hear what you come up with after some time wondering if Trump turns up nothing.

Definitely keep me posted when you do - I cannot wait to hear your thoughts.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That interview was quality entertainment. At least Trump has a set and speaks his mind. Kind of rare these days and refreshing.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Does it matter if he's not a natural born citizen? Does it matter that he tried to cover it up, if true?

I'm super anxious to hear what you come up with after some time wondering if Trump turns up nothing.

Definitely keep me posted when you do - I cannot wait to hear your thoughts.
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Nothing, just lol'ing at the folks getting all Oliver Stone after this whole thing. I'm categorizing them in the same group as the "9/11 was an inside job" crowd.

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That interview was quality entertainment. At least Trump has a set and speaks his mind. Kind of rare these days and refreshing.
Agreed... Even if his thoughts warrant as much consideration as Snooki's address to Rutgers (Jersey represent!). The man is fun to watch.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Serious question. Does it really matter where he was born?

His mom is a us citizen so wouldn't that extend to him?

Say my dad is a us national working in switzerland when I am born. Can I not run for president?
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Old 04-08-2011, 12:13 AM   #8 (permalink)
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No, IIRC, nationality is passed on from the father.

All I've ever seen from the birthers is a big pile of circumstantial evidence.

The law says he has to be a natural-born US citizen to be president. I don't think that law is necessary, but it is the law. If somebody can come forth with actual concrete evidence that he was born off US soil, then I will be in front of the line advocating for his removal from office. Until then, I see it as the best nutjob government conspiracy theory since 9/11.
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No, IIRC, nationality is passed on from the father.

All I've ever seen from the birthers is a big pile of circumstantial evidence.

The law says he has to be a natural-born US citizen to be president. I don't think that law is necessary, but it is the law. If somebody can come forth with actual concrete evidence that he was born off US soil, then I will be in front of the line advocating for his removal from office. Until then, I see it as the best nutjob government conspiracy theory since 9/11.
It's not just removal from office. I believe any legislation he signed off on would instantly become null by law.

It's not like expect any of this to happen though. Even if it was discovered he was not born a US citizen I wouldn't be surprised if it was glossed over. Not like politicians actually pay attention to the rules governing them anyway.
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If that is the law, then it is.
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I just hope his creditors don't have to finance another bankruptcy due to his apparent idiocy.
Trump small potatoes when it comes to bankruptcy, obama and company can bankrupt nations, even a nation as great as the USA, just stand back and watch.


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after the 1994 elections, Larry Flynt launched a personal crusade to dig up dirt on as many GOP politicians as he could. I don't remember exactly how many he was able to publicly embarrass and drive from office, but the democrats at the time were just fine with what Flynt was doing. Even when asked why they were cheering on a smut merchant like Flynt, their reply was always, "well, as an American citizen, he has a 1st Amendment right to...."
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Serious question. Does it really matter where he was born?
Yes

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His mom is a us citizen so wouldn't that extend to him?
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Say my dad is a us national working in switzerland when I am born. Can I not run for president?
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No, IIRC, nationality is passed on from the father.

All I've ever seen from the birthers is a big pile of circumstantial evidence.

The law says he has to be a natural-born US citizen to be president. I don't think that law is necessary, but it is the law. If somebody can come forth with actual concrete evidence that he was born off US soil, then I will be in front of the line advocating for his removal from office. Until then, I see it as the best nutjob government conspiracy theory since 9/11.
Citizenship is passed on by either parent. He's definitely American. The issue is not whether he's a citizen, it's whether he's a "natural born" citizen, i.e. born in the US.

Which there is no reason to think he isn't, until someone proves otherwise. I'm not sure a lack of birth certificate is even really "proof" proof.
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