Official Global Warming thread (merged)

[TennTradition]

Originally Posted by vader

Somewhere Tennessee Tradition just got a high pitched ringing noise in his head for no apparent reason.

Weird. It's like magic.
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[TSwafford]

everybody needs to go buy more green products to make al gore richer and fight global warming

[utgibbs]

Originally Posted by Rasputin_Vol

Brrrr... this dayum global warming.

Weather Rarity: Snow in 49 States - Yahoo! News


Oh wait... there's a difference between "climate" and "weather".

The 800lbs gorilla says: Bingo!

[utgibbs]

I should state that I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO DATA ON THIS, but my spider sense suggests a phenomenon like global heating, which warms the poles far more than the tropics, will add a lot of additional moisture in the polar regions, and these late winter blasts may be a product of the next couple of decades or so.

I have heard the UK is looking at this right now, and the Hadley Centre will be reporting on the possibility in the near future. Regardless, it is difficult to link any one event to the heating of the climate which is now "unequivocal" by even the most conservative scientific assessment.

[overseasorange2]

Originally Posted by utgibbs

I should state that I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO DATA ON THIS, but my spider sense suggests a phenomenon like global heating, which warms the poles far more than the tropics, will add a lot of additional moisture in the polar regions, and these late winter blasts may be a product of the next couple of decades or so.

I have heard the UK is looking at this right now, and the Hadley Centre will be reporting on the possibility in the near future. Regardless, it is difficult to link any one event to the heating of the climate which is now "unequivocal" by even the most conservative scientific assessment.

[Oldvol75]

So global heating will add moisture at the poles? So does this moisture force the cold air south? Gee I always thought that when you mixed cold air and moisture you got ice and snow? My local weatherman must lie!
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[utgibbs]

Originally Posted by overseasorange2

Not my words, overseasorange2.

The words of the most conservative scientific assessment of the phenomenon on the planet: the IPCC.

"Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now
evident from observations of increases in global average
air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow
and ice and rising global average sea level (Figure 1.1)."

Fourth Assessment Report, Synthesis Report, p30

[Cartervol]

Funny i haven't seen any of those commercials with a lone polar bear floating on a single piece of ice lately. Al hasn't been making any public appearances lately that i know about either, hmmm.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by utgibbs

Not my words, overseasorange2.

The words of the most conservative scientific assessment of the phenomenon on the planet: the IPCC.

"Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now
evident from observations of increases in global average
air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow
and ice and rising global average sea level (Figure 1.1)."

Fourth Assessment Report, Synthesis Report, p30

Is there a point to the unequivocal highlight? Does this constitute "proof" in your world? Surely you're not trying to link proof of causality? Nevermind, you'll do that later as a prelude to an inverted woodshed visit.

[utgibbs]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

Is there a point to the unequivocal highlight? Does this constitute "proof" in your world? Surely you're not trying to link proof of causality? Nevermind, you'll do that later as a prelude to an inverted woodshed visit.

Oh, I don't need the IPCC community to tell me the climate has changed. I can see it with my own eyes outside the back door.

Besides, I still have some attachment to Clarksville, TN - a city on the front line of climate change given the last decade.

The IPCC assessment and the evidence of your own eyes and experience certainly constitutes proof to the sane members of the population.

[Cartervol]

I need some of those carbon credits to heat my house with.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by Cartervol

I need some of those carbon credits to heat my house with.

don't work. They can only be used to fuel Gore's jets.

[IPorange]

55 degrees here in Denver.

[kev20]

Originally Posted by IPorange

55 degrees here in Denver.

quite a change from the last few days, huh?
it's been down to -10 a couple times up north here.

[IPorange]

Originally Posted by Oldvol75

So global heating will add moisture at the poles? So does this moisture force the cold air south? Gee I always thought that when you mixed cold air and moisture you got ice and snow? My local weatherman must lie!
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He kind of did, I guess. Cold air is typically dry. It's actually warm moist air forced aloft with colder surface conditions that form snow. If you have cold air coming down, somewhere you have warm air going up. This is what is called a "mid latitude cyclone" and it what drives the weather for much of the United States. A destabilized climate pattern leads to more winter storm events, thus more snow.

Hence "climate change" as people don't understand that "global warming" doesn't mean everywhere will be warmer all the time.


I love how everyone has an opinion on the weather, despite not understanding how it works.