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08-23-2010, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by droski  huh? i only have spoken up when people claim moral superiority and then post pictures of their $10 million Louis XVI-esque church as proof. i've never said all churches were bad or wasteful.
you can also be a good person and not attend church at all. | Not all churches are like that. The one I pastor was originally built about 165 years ago. It would hold approximately 125 people. We have put on vinal siding, a metal roof, are in the process of replacing 3 air and heating units that are about 25 years old. We just got through helping a family that lost everything they own after a house fire. People come in wanting help and we help them. These people that come in wanting something like food, but only want the cash to buy it, we buy them food or give it to them from what the members bring to put in our pantry. We do not hand them cash, because we know what it will end up being used for. We pay peoples power bills sometimes when they are having a hard time. We buy schools supplies for kids whose parents can't afford to but it for them.
I wish at times that my church was bigger so we could do more, but its not and will do the best we can because thats what God gave us. We deal with peoples problems and try to help them find the best answer that they can. We try to point them in a direction that will help them. Man's answers aren't always the best, there is another one. | 
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08-23-2010, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BeecherVol Can God's work be carried out, can that church carry out reaching the lost or unsaved? | how the hell should i know? i'm not even sure god exists. | |
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08-23-2010, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by droski how the hell should i know? i'm not even sure god exists. | but, you do not discount the possibility....keep searching Drosk  | |
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08-23-2010, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by droski how the hell should i know? i'm not even sure god exists. | If there is any help you would like, just ask! I too, was searching at one point! | |
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08-23-2010, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by droski how the hell should i know? i'm not even sure god exists. | For the sake of the discussion, you would have to assume he does.
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08-23-2010, 01:49 PM
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One reason I have a problem with most mega churches and with any wealthy pastor.
As far as the school goes TIME is the missing variable.
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08-23-2010, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CSpindizzy I was thinking economics.... | I was under the impression they didn't teach that in California... | |
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08-23-2010, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by IPorange I was under the impression they didn't teach that in California... | they do, but only the Keynesian model, which has proven to fail every time it's tried
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08-23-2010, 02:11 PM
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| Oh they teach it there. Just obviously in a manner that proves failure. Other states can use CA as a model of failed economics...what not to do. | |
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08-23-2010, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TruthIsOutThere Mark 10:15
One reason I have a problem with most mega churches and with any wealthy pastor.
Posted via VolNation Mobile | Wow, you are taking that passage WAAAAY out of context on this subject. It is talking about faith of a child, not bank account of a child. | |
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08-23-2010, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by T-TownVol Wow, you are taking that passage WAAAAY out of context on this subject. It is talking about faith of a child, not bank account of a child. | Is that what he meant?
He had me stumped on that one, didn't know where that was going.
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08-23-2010, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BeecherVol Is that what he meant?
He had me stumped on that one, didn't know where that was going. | Staying in the context of this thread, that is my only conclusion. If I am wrong, please correct me Truth, thanks. | |
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08-24-2010, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tigervol9802 The irony of "you're" being misused here is quality. | I noticed that too. Gotta love gems like these on message boards. | |
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08-24-2010, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BeecherVol For the sake of the discussion, you would have to assume he does. | and then i'm also to assume god believes that churches are a good thing too? | |
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08-24-2010, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MG1968 they do, but only the Keynesian model, which has proven to fail every time it's tried | Depending on centralized planning is a pipe dream, because no centralized body can be anything but fallible to the intricacies of specific economic components. | |
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