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08-10-2010, 12:05 PM
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| | The White Debonair | The clown doesn't have a clue how to lead.....UPDATE 1-Obama attacks Bush policies in UPDATE 1-Obama attacks Bush policies in Bush's home state | Reuters Quote:
AUSTIN, Texas, Aug 9 (Reuters) - President Barack Obama attacked the economic policies of his Republican predecessor George W. Bush in Bush's home state on Monday as evidence of the way Republicans would operate if given power in Nov. 2 U.S. congressional elections.
At a fund-raising event for Democrats in Dallas, where Bush now lives, Obama said the former president's "disastrous" policies had driven the U.S. economy into the ground and turned budget surpluses into deficits.
Obama defended his repeated references to Bush's policies, saying they were necessary to remind Americans of the weak economy he inherited from Bush in January 2009.
"The policies that crashed the economy, that undercut the middle class, that mortgaged our future, do we really want to go back to that, or do we keep moving our country forward?" Obama said at another fund-raising event in Austin, referring to Bush's eight years as president.
In reminding voters about the policies of the unpopular Bush, Obama is trying to protect his fellow Democrats' majorities in Congress and limit anticipated Republican gains.
On Nov. 2, voters will choose all 435 members of the House of Representatives and 37 members of the 100-seat Senate.
Republicans say they doubt Obama's effort to cite Bush as a reason to vote against them in November will work because Americans are more concerned about getting or keeping a job.
"When we talk about this 'going back' thing, I notice that some Republicans say, 'Well, he just wants to bash the previous administration, he's looking backwards.' ... No, no, no. The reason we're focused on it is because the other side isn't offering anything new," Obama said in Austin.
| Thoughts other than this clown being the best candidate the democrats could offer? |
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08-10-2010, 12:08 PM
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| | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Middle Tennessee
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| It's the only card they have left. You really think he wants to stand behind what they have accomplished so far? |
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08-10-2010, 12:09 PM
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| | Fill your hands... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Aggieland
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| Laura touched on this a little bit last night on her radio program in between her rants concerning the Vacation and his basketball habit.
I'd be willing to bet he received little resistance in Austin, but clearly the guy has began his campaign trail. I'd be happy if he stayed North of the Red River, and East of the Sabine.
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08-10-2010, 12:10 PM
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| | Yikes Tennesssee. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Valley of the Sun
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| You can't stray from the party line. |
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08-10-2010, 12:14 PM
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| | Fill your hands... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Aggieland
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| Instituting the 3-4 with Deruyter as a coordinator. Im confident enough. Von Miller returned too so, we'll see.
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08-10-2010, 12:14 PM
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| | Five Star Recruit | Quote:
Originally Posted by IPorange How long does this card remain good with Americans? He's had two years, and has been president 2/3's of it. He's spent trillions with a "T" dollars, to no real effect. I got to think this is going to wear thin very, very soon. | This argument went away for a while. Poll numbers slipped. Time to dig into the bag of one liners and see if anything works. When you have nothing to go on, you dig up the crap that got you in office. At this point, they're desperate for anything. |
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08-10-2010, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CSpindizzy This argument went away for a while. Poll numbers slipped. Time to dig into the bag of one liners and see if anything works. When you have nothing to go on, you dig up the crap that got you in office. At this point, they're desperate for anything. | Yet the democrats have a fair chance at holding on to the House... How can that be, given the polls? It makes me wonder if we are going to see a "shocking" shift in Congress this election cycle, partly due to the media low-balling the current numbers. |
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08-10-2010, 12:21 PM
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| | My Facts > Your Facts Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL
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| Here's my theory. Obama is trying to get people so sick of politics that they say "I'm tired of hearing about all this" and go back to ignoring everything he does. |
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08-10-2010, 12:25 PM
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| | Senior Member | Quote:
Originally Posted by IPorange How long does this card remain good with Americans? He's had two years, and has been president 2/3's of it. He's spent trillions with a "T" dollars, to no real effect. I got to think this is going to wear thin very, very soon. |
It probably signals an expectation on his part that the economy and in particular the unemployment numbers will not markedly improve between now and November. So, rather than defend the current situation, he is going to point out that a return to Republican control of either or both houses means alikely return to their economic policies that, if not directly contributing to the current problems, at least played a role in making it worse.
Its all a matter of framing the debate as the Republicans favoring the wealthy at the expense of the lower classes, corporate greed caused this, and we'll have more of that if the Republicans win control.
Pretty much standard stuff, from either party. |
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08-10-2010, 12:37 PM
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| | my 2 cents Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ashland City,TN
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Originally Posted by lawgator1 It probably signals an expectation on his part that the economy and in particular the unemployment numbers will not markedly improve between now and November. So, rather than defend the current situation, he is going to point out that a return to Republican control of either or both houses means alikely return to their economic policies that, if not directly contributing to the current problems, at least played a role in making it worse.
Its all a matter of framing the debate as the Republicans favoring the wealthy at the expense of the lower classes, corporate greed caused this, and we'll have more of that if the Republicans win control.
Pretty much standard stuff, from either party. | It is interesting, Obama has laid blame on the previous president openly more than any other president I can remember. In the past presidents have been reluctant to do this because it makes them look ineffective and unwilling to take responsibility.
There will come a time in the near future when laying blame at the feet of the previous administration no longer work. While he is actively campaigning for democrats many of those same candidates are staying at arms length from him publicly. There is a real sense among many citizens and those involved in politics that he is short on substance and his policies leave a lot to be desired by the average American.
Let us not also forget that the democrats were in control of the house before the crap hit the fan and they hold just as much of the responsibility as Bush or the previous house. people will be reminded often of the flat out denials of a coming crash by so many of the democrat super stars. |
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08-10-2010, 12:48 PM
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| | Five Star Recruit | Quote:
Originally Posted by IPorange Yet the democrats have a fair chance at holding on to the House... How can that be, given the polls? It makes me wonder if we are going to see a "shocking" shift in Congress this election cycle, partly due to the media low-balling the current numbers. | A few factors:
1)When DeLay and others pushed reapportionment in the 90's many of the districts became ideologically purer. This was post '94. The number of swing districts shrunk. Not quite as many are in play as was then.
2)GOP failed to come up with some decent candidates in some districts we are now seeing as competitive late in the game. "Fillers" are making some stupid rookie mistakes that scare voters to sticking with devil they know
3)Money - much of the money went to Senate campaigns because the logic was the R's can win there. Only recently has money begun trickling back to those house seats
In what I've seen with the consultants is there is a reluctance to spread money out to some of the 'fringe possibility' districts. There are about 30-40 districts money and resources are going to - some of which are R's trying to hold the seats. If the R's can get the indies to come out with the trend remaining 2 to 1 for R's, then there is a chance. But efforts to get them out are underfunded.
It's a lot of time left in the game. Things can change. I personally think if there is ANY change it will be to the negative for D's. Economic news is only going to get worse. Food costs (especially with grain - see Russian fires news), gas costs, potentials for hurricanes, economic results, jobs (seasonal work trails off and more on the UE rolls) all spell bad media for Dems. |
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08-10-2010, 12:51 PM
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| | doo doo doo | Interesting that Obama and his cronies keep pointing to the Bush tax cuts as the policies that drove the car in the ditch. Those cuts may have grown the deficit but I've yet to see any explain how they caused the recession.
No surprise.
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