Feds suing Arizona

[tvolsfan]

What are the chance the courts overturn the law?

[IPorange]

I don't know. Can they overturn it for infringing on federal authority, even if the feds aren't exercising that authority?

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by IPorange

I don't know. Can they overturn it for infringing on federal authority, even if the feds aren't exercising that authority?

Does it really infringe on federal authority? It seems this law just mirrors federal law.

I literally can't believe this is such a big issue. Illegal immigration doesn't benefit the country at all, and we still have to put up with it because of a bunch of bleeding heart liberals buy into the nonsensical argument that people against illegal immigration are racist.

[IPorange]

I really just don't know enough about the legality of state vs. federal jurisdiction. Also, I wonder how fair the judicial body that rules on this will be. Isn't either a state judicial body or federal judicial body kind of going to be biased?

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by IPorange

I really just don't know enough about the legality of state vs. federal jurisdiction. Also, I wonder how fair the judicial body that rules on this will be. Isn't either a state judicial body or federal judicial body kind of going to be biased?

What if it just ends up at the Supreme Court? What do you think their take on this will be. I'd assume they'd be for it, but I'm not sure.

[BigPapaVol]

Thank goodness we have Eric Holder on the ball here.

[vols4sure]

I believe the Obama administration is completely underestimating the overall public's support of the Arizona law. I am glad they are challenging it.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by vols4sure

I believe the Obama administration is completely underestimating the overall public's support of the Arizona law. I am glad they are challenging it.

I don't think for a second that Obama gives a rat's ass what the public thinks here.

[vols4sure]

Even msnbc has an online poll showing 96% of people who voted support the law.

msnbc.com U.S. & World News - Do you support Arizona's tough new law on illegal immigration?

[IPorange]

Originally Posted by vols4sure

Even msnbc has an online poll showing 96% of people who voted support the law.

msnbc.com U.S. & World News - Do you support Arizona's tough new law on illegal immigration?

96 % is statistically very unlikely for being even pro-sex. Must be either a small sample size, or someone is spamming it.

[vols4sure]

Originally Posted by IPorange

96 % is statistically very unlikely for being even pro-sex. Must be either a small sample size, or someone is spamming it.

I guess but all the polls I have seen are pretty strongly in favor of it. CBS had more of a scientific poll with 70% supporting it back in May (about 20% of those thinking it didn't go far enough) and 25% thinking it went too far.

I also think the support is only getting stronger due to 1) Feds still refusing to do anything about immigration; 2) the drug situation is either getting worse or more problems with the border are actually being reported (or most likely both); and 3) and people are finally becoming more knowledgeable about the actual language of the law.

Even if Obama doesn't care what the public thinks, he is still underestimating the broad support for Arizona. He also probably thinks he can give a couple speeches and change peoples opinions with his big words and elegant speaking ability. Thankfully most of America isn't buying his crap anymore.

[IPorange]

Originally Posted by vols4sure

I guess but all the polls I have seen are pretty strongly in favor of it. CBS had more of a scientific poll with 70% supporting it back in May (about 20% of those thinking it didn't go far enough) and 25% thinking it went too far.

I also think the support is only getting stronger due to 1) Feds still refusing to do anything about immigration; 2) the drug situation is either getting worse or more problems with the border are actually being reported (or most likely both); and 3) and people are finally becoming more knowledgeable about the actual language of the law.

Even if Obama doesn't care what the public thinks, he is still underestimating the broad support for Arizona. He also probably thinks he can give a couple speeches and change peoples opinions with his big words and elegant speaking ability. Thankfully most of America isn't buying his crap anymore.

Oh, I am sure support is strong. But there is a big difference from 70 some % and 96 %. 96 % of people can not agree on ANYTHING.

[vols4sure]

Originally Posted by IPorange

Oh, I am sure support is strong. But there is a big difference from 70 some % and 96 %. 96 % of people can not agree on ANYTHING.

They can if I agree with them

[IPorange]

at 96 %, some of the illegal immigrants would have to be voting yes!

[BeecherVol]

Anybody could see this coming. Barack hasn't passed his "Open Border", "Amnesty" bill yet. And the AZ bill throws fuel on a fire that Obama wishes would die down til he passes his bill.