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04-07-2010, 09:00 PM
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| | The White Debonair | What an idiot! Virginia Governor Notes 'Major Omission' on Slavery in Dixie Month Dec FOXNews.com - Virginia Governor Notes 'Major Omission' on Slavery in Dixie Month Decree Quote:
McDonnell became the first governor since 2001 to designate April to commemorate the secessionist, slaveholding South.
The last governor to do that was fellow Republican Jim Gilmore. Since then, Democrats Mark Warner and Tim Kaine refused to issue the proclamation.
Warner, in his first year as governor in 2002, discontinued the proclamation sought each spring by the Sons of Confederate Veterans. Before that, the proclamations were met annually with denunciations from black groups.
McDonnell's initial decision not to mention slavery in the proclamation drew sharp criticism.
Black members of the General Assembly, all Democrats, said McDonnell's proclamation was "offensive and offered a disturbing revision of the Civil War and the brutal era that followed."
"Virginia has worked hard to move beyond the very things for which Gov. McDonnell seems nostalgic," said a statement issued by the Virginia Legislative Black Caucus.
Virginia was home to more of the war's battles than any other state, and its Capitol in Richmond doubled as the Confederate seat of government.
McDonnell said slavery was not the lone issue contested in the war that ended with Gen. Robert E. Lee's surrender in 1865 at Appomattox Court House, about 75 miles west of Richmond.
"There were any number of aspects to that conflict between the states. Obviously it involved slavery, it involved other issues, but I focused on the ones that I thought were most significant for Virginia," McDonnell said.
Former Gov. L. Douglas Wilder, who in 1989 became the nation's first elected black governor, said no discussion of the Old South or the Confederacy is balanced without mentioning the human bondage it tolerated.
| Wow.... just wow...... I am with Gov. Wilder on this. I am overly fascinated with the Civil War but dang on man....... Confederate History Month...... really............ All the gains the republicans have had and Confederate History Month............. |
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04-07-2010, 09:48 PM
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| | VOLatile Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Columbia TN
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Originally Posted by IPorange To say the Civil War was all about slavery is a revision, as well. The general public has no realistic concept of the war. | Bingo. Sad, but this is how it is for most of history. BTW, have you looked @ a recent history textbook? Wow!! Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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04-07-2010, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by IPorange To say the Civil War was all about slavery is a revision, as well. The general public has no realistic concept of the war. | They can say it was about states rights, but they really just didn't want to change their way of life. That way of life consisted of oppressing a group of color for their skin color.
Don't use terms like revisionist history unless you have a clue what you are talking about. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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04-07-2010, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JTrainDavis Only uneducated drama queens would have an issue with this observance (cue LG, mn, and bam). Posted via VolNation Mobile | This is a classic risk reward scenario. Why even do this as nothing positive is gonna happen. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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04-08-2010, 05:45 AM
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| | Ih8themaroonwave Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lexington, KY
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| Regardless of what the causes of the war were (there were many and the issue of slavery was of course one) the purpose of the celebration is to honor the Confederate soldier.
The vast majority of Confederate soldiers were far to poor to own slaves. They were men that did what all good men would do, defend their homes and state against a foreign invasion.
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04-08-2010, 05:48 AM
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| | Ih8themaroonwave Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lexington, KY
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Originally Posted by Vols520 They can say it was about states rights, but they really just didn't want to change their way of life. That way of life consisted of oppressing a group of color for their skin color.
Don't use terms like revisionist history unless you have a clue what you are talking about. Posted via VolNation Mobile | Define "they". The average Confederate foot soldier certainly had no reason to protect slavery.
Try again. |
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04-08-2010, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by gasguy98 Define "they". The average Confederate foot soldier certainly had no reason to protect slavery.
Try again. | Well that argument is smilar to saying most Nazi soldiers had nothing against Jews Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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04-08-2010, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by gasguy98 Regardless of what the causes of the war were (there were many and the issue of slavery was of course one) the purpose of the celebration is to honor the Confederate soldier.
The vast majority of Confederate soldiers were far to poor to own slaves. They were men that did what all good men would do, defend their homes and state against a foreign invasion. | a foreign nation? Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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04-08-2010, 08:20 AM
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| | doo doo doo | On a practical level, this is a dumb move.
__________________ "Every American has the right to know when their government believes it has the right to kill them"
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04-08-2010, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JTrainDavis Only uneducated drama queens would have an issue with this observance (cue LG, mn, and bam). Posted via VolNation Mobile | Thanks.
I actually enjoy studying Confederate generals. For the most part, they were strategically better and had very little to work with.
A few were against slavery, but most had no problem with slavery. Slavery was also concentrated in a few states, with massive plantation owners buying them. The average person in the South couldn't afford one.
Regardless this is stupid, but this is not surprising coming from McDonnell. Posted via VolNation Mobile
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04-08-2010, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire | I don't know why you're surprised. This is the new breed of Republican. The Moral majority, secessionist southerners define the Republican party. |
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04-08-2010, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bam15 I don't know why you're surprised. This is the new breed of Republican. The Moral majority, secessionist southerners define the Republican party. | That's not true. Dumb move for sure. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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04-08-2010, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gasguy98 Regardless of what the causes of the war were (there were many and the issue of slavery was of course one) the purpose of the celebration is to honor the Confederate soldier.
The vast majority of Confederate soldiers were far to poor to own slaves. They were men that did what all good men would do, defend their homes and state against a foreign invasion. | Please enlighten me, who fired first?
I don't recall The United States of America firing first. |
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