Does John Gruden wish he would have come to UT now?

[utfantilidie]

Once Promising Bucs Season Ends With A Thud


i.e.
R.I.P. Joan Gruden, and take your punter with ya-- wish I could say nice knowing ya, but I can not.. couldn't stand you from the moment you were picked to take Dungy's team to the Super Bowl, then you dismantled the ones who threatened you most.. maybe your good pal Tiger can use a waterboy on tour next year?

[NYYVol]

Originally Posted by utfantilidie

Once Promising Bucs Season Ends With A Thud


i.e.
R.I.P. Joan Gruden, and take your punter with ya-- wish I could say nice knowing ya, but I can not.. couldn't stand you from the moment you were picked to take Dungy's team to the Super Bowl, then you dismantled the ones who threatened you most.. maybe your good pal Tiger can use a waterboy on tour next year?

If Gruden caddies for anyone next year it will be John Daly...

[BuckeyeVols]

Lofton- Nice avatar!

And on Gruden, I bet they keep him at least for next year.

[NYYVol]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeVols

Lofton- Nice avatar!

And on Gruden, I bet they keep him at least for next year.

I think he returns as well...but dang his rope is getting shorter and shorter. The fan base down there was split pretty well before this week's game...it's only gonna get worse from here.

[knucklehead_vol]

i have been wondering the same thing...but i am happy with kiffin.

[Athlete269]

Gruden ain't goin anywhere. They still love him in Tampa.

[VolsRule]

Tampa fans are ready to run gruden out of town. He should have taken the UT job---he will probably get fired next year if the bucs choke again and don't make the playoffs.

[matts42012]

I was ready to buy me an orange chucky doll too lol.......but im giving Kiffin the thumbs up so far.

[hatvol96]

Originally Posted by utfantilidie

Once Promising Bucs Season Ends With A Thud


i.e.
R.I.P. Joan Gruden, and take your punter with ya-- wish I could say nice knowing ya, but I can not.. couldn't stand you from the moment you were picked to take Dungy's team to the Super Bowl, then you dismantled the ones who threatened you most.. maybe your good pal Tiger can use a waterboy on tour next year?

Remind me how many Super Bowls Saint Tony won with that group. Also, Tony had the same influence in putting that team together I did. The next personnel decision Tony Dungy gets to make in the NFL will be his first. Rich McKay and Bill Polian have carried his Bible thumping arse.
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[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by VolsRule

Tampa fans are ready to run gruden out of town. He should have taken the UT job---he will probably get fired next year if the bucs choke again and don't make the playoffs.

He'll just get another NFL job.

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by hatvol96

Remind me how many Super Bowls Saint Tony won with that group. Also, Tony had the same influence in putting that team together I did. The next personnel decision Tony Dungy gets to make in the NFL will be his first. Rich McKay and Bill Polian have carried his Bible thumping arse.
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I think Dungy deserves some credit. I would take John Gruden over him, but the Colts did get much better under his watch, and I think Tampa Bay improved as well.

[Jaytrain5]

Originally Posted by hatvol96

Remind me how many Super Bowls Saint Tony won with that group.
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My point exactly. Why the hell are people so determined to put an asterisk on Gruden's early accomplishments in Tampa?

Dungy had plenty of opportunities with the Bucs...and he couldn't get it done - in fact, if I'm not mistaken, the Bucs failed to score an offensive touchdown in 4 consecutive playoff appearances under Dungy. Then, along comes Gruden, and they roll to a world championship.

Gruden came in did the job that Tony Dungy couldn't do in Tampa.

[Cartervol]

Gruden is a nfl guy and will remain that way.

[KB5252]

Gruden has a banged up defense that is getting a little long in the tooth. They will need to retool in the next year or two.

[Jaytrain5]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

I think Dungy deserves some credit. I would take John Gruden over him, but the Colts did get much better under his watch, and I think Tampa Bay improved as well.

I like Tony Dungy...I think he's a good coach, and good man. In my little fairy tale world, people ultimately get what they deserve. He pressed on after falling short in Tampa, and he successfully coached his next team to a world championship.

He does deserve credit for playing an integral role in the change of culture in Tampa. He wasn't solely responsible for turning them into a perennial playoff team, but he was a big factor. Also critical in that turnaround was his ability to surround himself with top-flight assistants....Monte Kiffin, Herm Edwards, Lovie Smith, Mike Tomlin, Rod Marinelli, etc. made up an impressive coaching staff.....and, watching Fulmer select his assistants at UT has given me a great appreciation for coaches who hire great talent.