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11-23-2008, 09:29 PM
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| | Through the Valley....
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| Who would have thought Matt Cassel...
Would be lighting it up and the two guys he backed up in college can't even get on the field?? I hate the Patriots, but Cassel sure is making it look like it's a great QB system up there.
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11-23-2008, 09:31 PM
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| Well, to be fair, Palmer isn't on the field because he's injured.
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11-23-2008, 09:53 PM
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| Hey Eric..GO PATS!!!  I like what Cassel is doing but he is no King Brady. And how about Mayo, he is having a hell of a first year. | |
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11-25-2008, 12:12 PM
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| Kinda helps prove the Peyton > Tom argument when you see a guy like MC throw for 400 yards two games in a row. But, who knows, he could be a great QB and we don't know it yet - but i'll take my chances with the first option. | |
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11-25-2008, 12:21 PM
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| | Matthew 6:2
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Originally Posted by Bassmanbruno  Kinda helps prove the Peyton > Tom argument when you see a guy like MC throw for 400 yards two games in a row. But, who knows, he could be a great QB and we don't know it yet - but i'll take my chances with the first option. | no it doesnt.
Brady is hurt, not riding the bench because he can't produce.
Matt Cassell will be the next Scott Mitchell, John Kitna, etc. | |
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11-25-2008, 12:26 PM
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| | Arise chicken....
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| Easy to look good with Wes Welker, Randy Moss, and no running game to speak of. I looked at his stats. Almost every game he is throwing 30+ balls, not to mention 51 and 43 the last 2 games. He only threw 24 earlier this year, but thats due to the whooping they put on Denver that game.
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11-25-2008, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by doozer no it doesnt.
Brady is hurt, not riding the bench because he can't produce.
Matt Cassell will be the next Scott Mitchell, John Kitna, etc. | Yes it does - and I never said Brady wasn't producing. What I was saying was that another no name guy can come in and be nearly as effective as Brady with only a few starts under his belt. Brady is good (easily one of the top 2 QBs) - but his team has made him look a whole heck of a lot better and its more obvious now. You win and lose as a team.
He threw for 400 yards in back to back games. Brady hasn't even done that. As the poster above said - Welker and Moss really are nice to have as a QB. | |
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11-25-2008, 01:07 PM
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| | Irrelevant since 09/2007
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| exactly it has to make brady look worse. | |
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11-25-2008, 02:18 PM
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| | Matthew 6:2
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Originally Posted by Bassmanbruno Yes it does - and I never said Brady wasn't producing. What I was saying was that another no name guy can come in and be nearly as effective as Brady with only a few starts under his belt. Brady is good (easily one of the top 2 QBs) - but his team has made him look a whole heck of a lot better and its more obvious now. You win and lose as a team.
He threw for 400 yards in back to back games. Brady hasn't even done that. As the poster above said - Welker and Moss really are nice to have as a QB. | and what big time all-pro WRs was he throwing the ball too on his way to 3 Super Bowl MVPs? | |
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11-25-2008, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by doozer and what big time all-pro WRs was he throwing the ball too on his way to 3 Super Bowl MVPs? | What records was he breaking? He wasn't lighting things on fire back then. They won with good offense line play, a clutch kicker, a good, smart defense, and an amazing coach.
He did what he needed to do. He wasn't playing lights out or anywhere close like he did last season.
There was no "stand-out" guy for atleast 2 of those Super Bowls I remember - so naturally it will go to the QB if his stats are decent... see Peyton's super bowl MVP. | |
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11-25-2008, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by doozer and what big time all-pro WRs was he throwing the ball too on his way to 3 Super Bowl MVPs? | He only has 2, actually. | |
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11-25-2008, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by doozer and what big time all-pro WRs was he throwing the ball too on his way to 3 Super Bowl MVPs? | And I'm not saying he isn't great. I said he was easily top 2 - just that this helps prove he isn't the #1 in the league. He deserved those MVPs. He was the best player on a great team. | |
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11-25-2008, 10:37 PM
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| | hoping for a turnaround
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| so the fact that Peyton stunk up the joint while his Pro Bowlers were injured doesn't mean anything? | |
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11-25-2008, 10:39 PM
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| | Dust Off Those Britches
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| peyton stunk up the joint because he had 2 surgeries in the off season | |
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11-25-2008, 10:49 PM
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| | hoping for a turnaround
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Originally Posted by dickens821 peyton stunk up the joint because he had 2 surgeries in the off season | so even after saying he was back to 100%, the scoring didn't come back until his Pro Bowlers did. Interesting. | |
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