New Orleans Saints Thread

[VOLNBAMA]

Originally Posted by vols kick balls

Yet they were 12th in scoring offense. Yards mean very little if you can't get into the endzone.

I'd still like to hear your answer of which position group the Saints are better than the Colts.

well Shockey gives us a red zone option and Deuce will make this offense better in the red zone too. And to answer your question about the position groups, it doesn't matter who has the better groups.

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some stuff from today's practice.

Reggie Bush looked stockier than in the past.

-Deuce looked much thinner than last year.

-Shockey and Vilma were in full pads. They participated in every drill and were not limited in anyway.

-Shockey stayed after practice and ran patterns with Brees. Coach Payton stayed after practice and watched Brees and Shockey practice together(He had a big smile on his face) Shockey caught everything that was thrown at him.

-Adrian Arrington made several big catches. One in 11 on 11 which would of resulted in a TD.

-Lance Moore caught every ball thrownhis way.

-Skyler Green dropped at least 3 balls thrown his way.

-Copper and Henderson dropped a few passes also.

-Mike M. participated in individual drills but not 7 on 7 or 11 on 11.

-DeMario Pressley DOMINATED in OL vs. DL drills. Twice he got to the QB(dummy) with ease. Very fast first step.

-Troy Evans was very vocal during practice, often screaming and grunting. During a break a water boy ran to the field with water and Troy screamed "Damn look at that hustle".

-Grant owned Stichcomb in the one on one drill with a spin move.

-Bobby McCray looked very fast coming off the corner. He is very tall and the most impressive thing about his is his wing span...His arms are so long. He will knock alot of balls down this year by getting his hands up.

-Craft dropped an Int.

-Usama Young looked like the fastest CB while side stepping through dummies

-Curtis(WR Coach) was constantly coaching Adrian Arrington. He also got onto Henderson after making a catch on a fly pattern, he made the catch while he was falling to the ground. Curtis's complaint was that he would of scored 6 if he would of kept his feet.

[vols kick balls]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

well Shockey gives us a red zone option and Deuce will make this offense better in the red zone too. And to answer your question about the position groups, it doesn't matter who has the better groups.

So the Saints are better offensively despite the fact that the Colts are better at every position on the field?

[chavisut]

Colts O>>>Saints O

[VOLNBAMA]

Originally Posted by vols kick balls

So the Saints are better offensively despite the fact that the Colts are better at every position on the field?

Well Colston is better than the WRs for Indy.

[vols kick balls]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

Well Colston is better than the WRs for Indy.

Reggie Wayne is twice the player Colston is. Saying Colston is better than Wayne is an absolute joke.

[VOLNBAMA]

look how ripped my boy Reggie is.

[VOLNBAMA]

Originally Posted by vols kick balls

Reggie Wayne is twice the player Colston is. Saying Colston is better than Wayne is an absolute joke.

Is he? Colston is our only good WR right now and he gets double teamed every down but yet puts up the same numbers as Wayne. The Colts also have other weapons so teams don't key on him like they do Colston. Colston has been the most underrated WR since he was drafted.

[VOLNBAMA]

it's a complete joke for you to say Wayne is twice the player Colston is.

[vols kick balls]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

Is he? Colston is our only good WR right now and he gets double teamed every down but yet puts up the same numbers as Wayne. The Colts also have other weapons so teams don't key on him like they do Colston. Colston has been the most underrated WR since he was drafted.

Same stats? Not hardly...
Wayne 104 catches for 1,510 yards (Lead the NFL).
Colston 98 catches for 1,202 yards.

Wayne was in the same boat Colston was after Marvin got hurt so I am not buying that excuse.

[vols kick balls]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

look how ripped my boy Reggie is.

Hopefully he can get to that ever elusive 4 YPC mark this year. He was so close last year.

[VOLNBAMA]

Reggie helps in other ways besides in rushing. He was second quickest in NFL history to 100 career catches.

[VOLNBAMA]

Originally Posted by vols kick balls

Same stats? Not hardly...
Wayne 104 catches for 1,510 yards (Lead the NFL).
Colston 98 catches for 1,202 yards.

Wayne was in the same boat Colston was after Marvin got hurt so I am not buying that excuse.

Reggie Wayne - 49 catches 716 yards 4 TDs.

Marques Colston - 98 catches 1,202 yards 11 TDs.

^ those are the numbers of their second season in the pros and by the looks of it Colston is the better player.

This was Wayne's 2006 season.

86 catches 1,310 yards 9 TDs.

Colston's second season in the pros was better than Wayne's 6th. Not to mention Colston was playing with injuries all throughout last season.

[vols kick balls]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

Reggie Wayne - 49 catches 716 yards 4 TDs.

Marques Colston - 98 catches 1,202 yards 11 TDs.

^ those are the numbers of their second season in the pros and by the looks of it Colston is the better player.

This was Wayne's 2006 season.

86 catches 1,310 yards 9 TDs.

Colston's second season in the pros was better than Wayne's 6th. Not to mention Colston was playing with injuries all throughout last season.

Wayne is a better WR right now than Colston. That is what I am saying. The stats show that because he got 300 more yards than Colston did in similar circumstances.

You can't use Wayne's stats as a #2 or #3 WR and compare them to someone who is used as a #1.Of course the #1 is going to have better stats. The #1 will get a lot more oppurtunities and always have better stats. Colston will never have a season as good as Wayne's 07.

If Meach steps up or they find another WR worth a damn you will see Colstons stats fall a fairly signifigant amount and it's not because Colston isn't as good as he was it is just because he won't get as many oppurtunities.

[vols kick balls]

Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA

Reggie helps in other ways besides in rushing. He was second quickest in NFL history to 100 career catches.

Yep, they usually call those guys WRs. Having a RB that can't run the ball doesn't make much sense to me.