Cowboys and Titans agree to Pacman trade

615 Vol · 04-23-2008, 05:46 PM

Titans get 4th round pick this Saturday for Pacman and a pick in 2009 if Pacman plays in 2008. If he does not play then the Cowboys get an undisclosed pick from the Titans in 2009.

This is a win for the Titans just to get rid of the guy.

superdave1984 · 04-23-2008, 08:09 PM

As a Cowboys fan for over 30 years, I cannot describe the nausea I feel right now. And the deal is only in principle, nothing is signed yet. If they sign him, my jersey will be set on fire in my driveway.

Cincy Vol o5 · 04-23-2008, 08:09 PM

If we still had Chris Henry I think it would have been a done deal with Cincy.

justingroves · 04-23-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by superdave1984

As a Cowboys fan for over 30 years, I cannot describe the nausea I feel right now. And the deal is only in principle, nothing is signed yet. If they sign him, my jersey will be set on fire in my driveway.

Pacman is no worse than Nate Newton, Michael Irvin, Leon Lett etc

volfanbill · 04-23-2008, 09:04 PM

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Pacman is no worse than Nate Newton, Michael Irvin, Leon Lett etc

i'm pretty sure this is the same guy I already had this conversation with...

Rumor is Wade was seen in a pawn shop this afternoon to buy a handgun...

superdave1984 · 04-23-2008, 09:36 PM

You left out Hollywood Henderson.
It's not that he's any worse, I think he is but that's not the point. My point is I am sick of people getting break after break just because they can play ball. If Adam Jones was a factory worker or an accountant or an x-ray tech, he would not only be unemployed, but pretty much unemployable. I am sick of good morals and good character being a distant second to athletic ability. Give me a quality guy with average skills that I can depend on to give me 100% effort every day and will not be a problem over a superstar caliber athlete that can't seem to go to the drive-thru without the possibility of a drive-by and doesn't give effort unless he wants to. Yeah I might lose games, but in my book, dignity, class and respect mean a whole lot.
I ask you this, if you had to tell your young son to idolize and emulate a sports figure, would it be Adam Jones? I think not. If that's your choice of role model, go ahead and call the adoption agency because you are not fit to be a parent.

Fine Vol · 04-23-2008, 09:40 PM

Cowboys will take anyone. They are the Yankees.

allvol123 · 04-23-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by superdave1984

I ask you this, if you had to tell your young son to idolize and emulate a sports figure, would it be Adam Jones? I think not. If that's your choice of role model, go ahead and call the adoption agency because you are not fit to be a parent.

While were deciding who is fit to be a parent, I'd suggest that if your child needs to use a sports figure as a role model...well then they are already getting a bad shake.

volfanbill · 04-23-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by superdave1984

I ask you this, if you had to tell your young son to idolize and emulate a sports figure, would it be Adam Jones? I think not. If that's your choice of role model, go ahead and call the adoption agency because you are not fit to be a parent.

i don't want my kid idolizing any sports figure. Sports figures are humans and they make mistakes just like the factory worker does. everyone gets second and third chances, it's just usually at the expense of the previous job.

Granted I've never worked with high end professional athletes, but I've been around D1 college athletes, minor league baseball players and even superstar teen golfers enough to know that no matter what kind of special gift they bring to their craft, ultimately they are no more perfect outside their respective athletic arena than any of us that watch them.

superdave1984 · 04-23-2008, 10:11 PM

I never said that kids should idolize sports figures, but you are very naive if you think they don't. And I am well aware that everyone makes mistakes. But you cannot deny that the star athlete gets many MANY more breaks than the average person. What would happen if you or I went Latrell on the boss?

volfanbill · 04-23-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by superdave1984

I never said that kids should idolize sports figures, but you are very naive if you think they don't. And I am well aware that everyone makes mistakes. But you cannot deny that the star athlete gets many MANY more breaks than the average person. What would happen if you or I went Latrell on the boss?

we'd get in trouble and eventually get a second chance. Kind of like what happened to Latrell.

superdave1984 · 04-24-2008, 07:23 AM

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we'd get in trouble and eventually get a second chance. Kind of like what happened to Latrell.

OK, a second chance. If I did something like that, I would be fired on the spot, arrested and probably spend time in jail. Then it would be very difficult to find another job. If I had Adam Jones' police record I wouldn't be able to find a job either. But because the guy can play football he gets chance after chance. I don't expect grown people to be perfect, but I do expect them to act in a manner that can be respected by the rest of the world. These people are on the world's biggest stage and they need to show some class. I do hope the guy gets his act together, but I ain't holding my breath.

justingroves · 04-24-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by superdave1984

You left out Hollywood Henderson.
It's not that he's any worse, I think he is but that's not the point. My point is I am sick of people getting break after break just because they can play ball. If Adam Jones was a factory worker or an accountant or an x-ray tech, he would not only be unemployed, but pretty much unemployable. I am sick of good morals and good character being a distant second to athletic ability. Give me a quality guy with average skills that I can depend on to give me 100% effort every day and will not be a problem over a superstar caliber athlete that can't seem to go to the drive-thru without the possibility of a drive-by and doesn't give effort unless he wants to. Yeah I might lose games, but in my book, dignity, class and respect mean a whole lot.
I ask you this, if you had to tell your young son to idolize and emulate a sports figure, would it be Adam Jones? I think not. If that's your choice of role model, go ahead and call the adoption agency because you are not fit to be a parent.

You work in factories much?

I work for a furniture store delivering furniture. One guy there spent ten years in jail for stabbing a guy.

I've worked on several framing crews and on one crew I worked on, 3 of the 5 guys had multiple DUI's.

KB5252 · 04-24-2008, 07:44 AM

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You work in factories much?

I work for a furniture store delivering furniture. One guy there spent ten years in jail for stabbing a guy.

I've worked on several framing crews and on one crew I worked on, 3 of the 5 guys had multiple DUI's.

I've worked with guys in factories and excavation co. that have been found guilty of crimes ranging from manslaughter to domestic violence. You would be surprised what those working around you have done. Hell one guy I worked with was raided at work and the police found four pounds of smoke in his car. He made bail three days later and was back at work.

justingroves · 04-24-2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KB5252

I've worked with guys in factories and excavation co. that have been found guilty of crimes ranging from manslaughter to domestic violence. You would be surprised what those working around you have done. Hell one guy I worked with was raided at work and the police found four pounds of smoke in his car. He made bail three days later and was back at work.

But only athletes get second chances...