Can JaMarcus Russell play QB in the NFL... - Page 3

superdave1984 · 03-11-2008, 03:22 PM

Without a great supporting cast he's doomed. When Moss was no longer there, Culpepper sucked out loud. And has ever since. If Russell gets in a situation where he has a great line, solid running game and a top recieving corps, he will be fantastic. But if he has to be "the guy", he will fail. In dramatic, spectacular fashion. (See Akili Smith) And with a truckload of cash so he won't care.

As for dumb white QB's, well there's a list a mile long there too. Of course Leaf tops the list along with Marinovich (sp) Dan McGwire, David Klingler, Tim Couch, Cade McNown and any QB from U of Florida. And this is just the last ten years or so.
Money really has killed the pro athlete. They play for the big contract, then they just coast till the next contract year, then they play like hall of famer's. No way should these guys make that much for playing sports.

KB5252 · 03-11-2008, 03:38 PM

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Air McNair didn't rely too much on his legs on college. He threw for like 450 yards a game at Alcorn.

Correct. I should have been clearer. The fact that it was Alcorn St and the quality of defense ( or the lack thereof) contributed greatly to his passing prowess.

615 Vol · 03-11-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by justingroves

Football fields are only 120 yards long

I don't know what I was thinking, I added the distance the kicker adds on. Thanks.

justingroves · 03-11-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jkell24

I don't know what I was thinking, I added the distance the kicker adds on. Thanks.

You had me questioning myself as I typed it. I was thinking, "endzones are only 10 yards deep right?"

The Dude · 03-16-2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TXVOL07

Oh, how does that tie in with the irrelevant JaMarcus Russell? Because him and some kid in Jacksonville are built similiar? And the other part of his argument about the backup for Eli? Seriously, those guys mattered?

You gave no reason for Russell's future failure other than him being fat and you said he's going to certainly be a backup for a insignificant team. Lorenzen is a fat backup for the SB Champs.

**OrangeEmpire** · 03-17-2008, 03:11 PM

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You gave no reason for Russell's future failure other than him being fat and you said he's going to certainly be a backup for a insignificant team. Lorenzen is a fat backup for the SB Champs.

Fat boy is going to be searching for a new team. David Carr is the new backup in NY.

With the quality of the Raider line I think Russell's weight issue will haunt him because of his mobility. He is going to take a lot of shots because of the Raiders offensive line.

**milohimself** · 03-17-2008, 03:21 PM

Sort of like the Detroit Lions effect going on there in Oakland.

"Such and such player really sucks."
"Yeah, but they do play for Oakland/Detroit..."
"True."

The Dude · 03-18-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire

Fat boy is going to be searching for a new team. David Carr is the new backup in NY.

With the quality of the Raider line I think Russell's weight issue will haunt him because of his mobility. He is going to take a lot of shots because of the Raiders offensive line.

I don't know why you're so high on Carr. He's more ineffective in the pocket than any QB in the NFL, having been sacked over 3 times a game. Additionally, last season the talk was (post Delhomme injury) how Carr should have been more productive behind the Panther's OL, a perceived big upgrade over the lowly Texans, yet he failed badly. Plus, if the Giants were so quick to get rid of Lorenzen, I doubt they would have tendered him. All granted, I do think he ends up as Eli's backup, but still blows.

**milohimself** · 03-18-2008, 01:47 AM

To be honest, Carr was an unknown quantity in the NFL up until last season. It's simply inaccurate and in poor judgment to brand a QB for his play for a team like Houston.

KB5252 · 03-18-2008, 02:56 PM

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To be honest, Carr was an unknown quantity in the NFL up until last season. It's simply inaccurate and in poor judgment to brand a QB for his play for a team like Houston.

He's damaged goods because he played for the Texans. He can't help but freak out every time the pocket begins to break down. He will probably never be right again assuming he ever was.

**OrangeEmpire** · 03-18-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude

I don't know why you're so high on Carr. He's more ineffective in the pocket than any QB in the NFL, having been sacked over 3 times a game. Additionally, last season the talk was (post Delhomme injury) how Carr should have been more productive behind the Panther's OL, a perceived big upgrade over the lowly Texans, yet he failed badly. Plus, if the Giants were so quick to get rid of Lorenzen, I doubt they would have tendered him. All granted, I do think he ends up as Eli's backup, but still blows.

I am high on Carr?

The Dude · 03-18-2008, 10:03 PM

If you think Carr is running Lorenzen out of NY, you're high on Carr. He's done little over the course of his career and his play last season was pathetic at best.

**vader** · 03-20-2008, 11:06 AM

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If you think Carr is running Lorenzen out of NY, you're high on Carr.

Careful OE, Carr kills.

**OrangeEmpire** · 03-21-2008, 07:15 PM

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If you think Carr is running Lorenzen out of NY, you're high on Carr. He's done little over the course of his career and his play last season was pathetic at best.

What planet are you from?

The NY Football Giants signed David Carr to be the backup quarterback.

I didn't...........

The Dude · 03-22-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeEmpire

What planet are you from?

The NY Football Giants signed David Carr to be the backup quarterback.

I didn't...........

Do you realize that most NFL teams have more than 2 quarterbacks on their roster?

The Giants have yet to announce Carr as the 2nd string and they tendered Lorenzen's contract. Yeah, it sounds like Carr has been automatically handed the backup spot in NY.