I thought Manning was done choking...

blamie · 01-13-2008, 04:35 PM

Before anyone says it...I know it was a team effort...

Untimely turnovers and the Colts D letting the 2nd string QB who had never played in a post season game go right down the field defintely sucked...

BUT...

Manning had two chances to show he's done choking on those last two drives...

Those two drives were the kind that define a clutch QB...

Proof once again that Manning is brilliant when it doesn't matter and average when it does

vol4eva · 01-13-2008, 04:36 PM

Yet he still has a Superbowl ring.

blamie · 01-13-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vol4eva

Yet he still has a Superbowl ring.

I know the ring was defintely validation and he is no doubt a first ballot Hall of Famer..

But does one ring cancel out a career of not being the difference in the clutch?

**ORANGEBLOOD** · 01-13-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blamie

I know the ring was defintely validation and he is no doubt a first ballot Hall of Famer..

But does one ring cancel out a career of not being the difference in the clutch?

Brett Favre- 1 ring
Now, Peyton will be 32 next year do you think he is going to get anymore chances at another ring?

**volinbham** · 01-13-2008, 04:40 PM

DC Vol · 01-13-2008, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blamie

Before anyone says it...I know it was a team effort...

Untimely turnovers and the Colts D letting the 2nd string QB who had never played in a post season game go right down the field defintely sucked...

BUT...

Manning had two chances to show he's done choking on those last two drives...

Those two drives were the kind that define a clutch QB...

Proof once again that Manning is brilliant when it doesn't matter and average when it does

Trying not to be biased here, but it takes more than just throwing the ball. His LT got blown up by Merriman, Clark dropped a ball that hit both hands... both INTs were from tipped balls. Again, it's more than just Manning... the Colts went from great to average with Harrison's fumble. It honestly just looked like the Charger's wanted it more.

**OWB** · 01-13-2008, 04:41 PM

Lord, here we go again. You win some and you lose some. Leave it alone.

blamie · 01-13-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vol4eva

Yet he still has a Superbowl ring.

I'm just glad he got tht ring before the Patriots reloaded...

Otherwise...he might be this generatiiosn Dan Marino...

But he did get it so that is that...

It's funny...last year I breathed a sigh of relief that Manning finally won it all and he didn't have to answer those questions anymore....I swore I was done being frustrating and that the SuperBowl win was a load off of my shoulders for his sake ...

But here I am...mad about the same stuff again...

Tennessee Ted · 01-13-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blamie

I know the ring was defintely validation and he is no doubt a first ballot Hall of Famer..

But does one ring cancel out a career of not being the difference in the clutch?

He still is relatively young. He has time to add to his credentials or subtract. Many great QBs do not even have one. Ask Dan Marino.

GoVols817 · 01-13-2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blamie

Before anyone says it...I know it was a team effort...

Untimely turnovers and the Colts D letting the 2nd string QB who had never played in a post season game go right down the field defintely sucked...

BUT...

Manning had two chances to show he's done choking on those last two drives...

Those two drives were the kind that define a clutch QB...

Proof once again that Manning is brilliant when it doesn't matter and average when it does

Yeah, you are right, forget the balls that his teammates tipped straight up in the air for INTs or the fact that his defense laid down when they needed to bow their backs the most and let a midget bust an obvious play for a TD.

Good call, blame it on Peyton.

vol4eva · 01-13-2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blamie

I know the ring was defintely validation and he is no doubt a first ballot Hall of Famer..

But does one ring cancel out a career of not being the difference in the clutch?

Maybe, I don't know. I doubt he really cares since he won the ultimate prize in the sport of football. But he has had his struggles.

thagodfather · 01-13-2008, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blamie

Before anyone says it...I know it was a team effort...

Untimely turnovers and the Colts D letting the 2nd string QB who had never played in a post season game go right down the field defintely sucked...

BUT...

Manning had two chances to show he's done choking on those last two drives...

Those two drives were the kind that define a clutch QB...

Proof once again that Manning is brilliant when it doesn't matter and average when it does

peyton vs. bolts, peyton vs. florida. stupid when people assume that he should be a one man team.

DC Vol · 01-13-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GoVols817

Yeah, you are right, forget the balls that his teammates tipped straight up in the air for INTs or the fact that his defense laid down like a cheap whore they needed to bow their backs the most and let a midget bust an obvious play for a TD.

Good call, blame it on Peyton.

Well, the QB takes the fall win or loss.

g8terh8ter_eric · 01-13-2008, 04:43 PM

If I were Manning I would choke too. I mean all that money that surrounds me would just suffocate me. Get real. The Colts D lost this for them today not Manning.

**volinbham** · 01-13-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DC Vol

Well, the QB takes the fall win or loss.

The QB takes the fall for a win?