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06-17-2007, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 I'm not into believing and overhyping someone either, but you have to give him credit for last year when he actually got to play. He still needs to develop a little better throwing and I know it will be harder this season, but he found ways to win last season and based on last year there's no reason to believe that he doesn't have the potential to be a top 3 qb in the NFL in the next 3-5 years. | I viewed your profile, and I see that you're a high school student. This explains a lot to me because you seem to lack perspective. In Peyton Manning and Tom Brady you have two quarterbacks that are well on there way to being recognized as two of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history, and they are at the absolute pinnacle of their game. Vince Young is not an accurate passer, and he has a LONG way to go to be mentioned in the same breath as Manning, Brady or Carson Palmer. I strongly doubt that he'll even be considered the top prospect from his own draft class by the end of the next 3 to 5 years. |
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06-17-2007, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 And I wouldn't be surprised in a few months if there's a few threads here praising vince for being the best ever.  | I imagine he'd probably need to throw more TDs than INTs before he could earn such a title. |
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06-17-2007, 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 And I wouldn't be surprised in a few months if there's a few threads here praising vince for being the best ever.  | Knowing the lack of perspective and objectivity of many of the posters on this board, you may very well be correct. Hell, I'm pretty sure that I've already read some of these threads. |
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06-17-2007, 02:08 AM
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| Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. If the management can get some people around him then he will be in the top 3. He may not statistically, but he will lead the Titans to many victories and hopefully many playoff appearences and that's all I am worried about. Now I will agree with you somewhat. I think by the time it's all said and done he may not be considered as the top quarterback of his draft class. |
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06-17-2007, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 I think by the time it's all said and done he may not be considered as the top quarterback of his draft class. | Possibly Quote:
Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 If the management can get some people around him then he will be in the top 3. | No chance |
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06-17-2007, 02:13 AM
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| Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer, Marc Bulger, Matt Hasselbeck, Donovan McNabb, Philip Rivers, etc. |
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06-17-2007, 02:14 AM
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| Bulger, McNabb, and Hassleback aren't going to be close. But thinking over the situation, I may have been wrong about the top 3 pick. But once again we cant really judge him until he actually gets some decent talent around him. |
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06-17-2007, 02:16 AM
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| Hey I finally agree with you on something. Fisher is an fantastic coach, and I king of feel bad for him for having to coach at such a terrible organization. I would say 6-10 to 8-8 is a realistic possibility. |
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06-17-2007, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 Bulger, McNabb, and Hassleback aren't going to be close. But thinking over the situation, I may have been wrong about the top 3 pick. But once again we cant really judge him until he actually gets some decent talent around him. | I'll take Bulger and McNabb over Vince Young any day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'm not a huge fan of Hasselbeck, but I'd take him over Vince Young as well. I'd also take both Cutler and Leinart over Vince Young in a heartbeat. |
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06-17-2007, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Vol423 I'll take Bulger and McNabb over Vince Young any day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'm not a huge fan of Hasselbeck, but I'd take him over Vince Young as well. I'd also take both Cutler and Leinart over Vince Young in a heartbeat. | In 8-10 years maybe, but not now. |
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06-17-2007, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 Hey I finally agree with you on something. Fisher is an fantastic coach, and I king of feel bad for him for having to coach at such a terrible organization. I would say 6-10 to 8-8 is a realistic possibility. | The Titans aren't a terrible organization. They held a very competitive playoff team together for a number of years, but they didn't manage the salary cap well. As a result, they eventually had to dump all of their talent and start over. The 49er's have been going through the same process for the last several years. The 49er's are, however, doing a better job of rebuilding. Hitting the lottery on a running back selected in the middle to late rounds of the draft has that type of effect on a team's fortunes. |
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06-17-2007, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 In 8-10 years maybe, but not now. | No. They're better now, and they'll be better later as well. You're probably a huge fan of Michael Vick as well. The ability to be an accurate passer is important in the NFL. Leinart and Cutler are more accurate passers than Vince Young. |
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06-17-2007, 02:23 AM
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| The 49ers are going to be in trouble in a couple of years though. Nolan is a great coach, but they spent way too much money this offseason. Mike Reinfeldt has done nothing since getting here to encourage me for the next couple of seasons as a Titans fan. I know he didn't want to go out and get back in salary cap troubles, but he could have kept Henry and I thought the first couple of picks in the NFL draft were bad, but time will tell. |
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06-17-2007, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 The 49ers are going to be in trouble in a couple of years though. Nolan is a great coach, but they spent way too much money this offseason. Mike Reinfeldt has done nothing since getting here to encourage me for the next couple of seasons as a Titans fan. I know he didn't want to go out and get back in salary cap troubles, but he could have kept Henry and I thought the first couple of picks in the NFL draft were bad, but time will tell. | The Titans draft this year was atrocious. |
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