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02-03-2007, 10:23 PM
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| 2007 NFL Hall of Famers selected Now that we know who is going into the 2007 NFL HOF, who do in your opinion, that didn't make this years cut, should have?
I think Art Monk should have. He's one of the best at his position. 
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02-03-2007, 10:35 PM
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| | Maestro of Merge | It is tough to rationalize Michael Irvin being in the HOF while Art Monk and Andre Reed are not.
Michael Irvin - 750 catches - 11,904 yards - 65 TDs
Art Monk - 940 catches - 12,721 yards - 68 TDs
Andre Reed - 951 catches - 13,198 yards - 87 TDs
Monk should also receive bonus points for having to listen to Joe Theisman all those years.
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02-03-2007, 10:43 PM
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| Andre Reed?
951 catches, 13,198 yards, 87 TDs
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02-05-2007, 03:19 PM
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| Peter King had a good article about this.......he voted for Monk this year.
he says though that this may have been his best shot, because as more time goes on, he'll begin to lose the numbers game. and he doesn't think Reed will get in simply because of the system they played in......??? i don't know that i agree with that......but i dont' know that reed or monk will ever get in based on what he said transpires in those meetings........
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02-06-2007, 07:05 PM
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02-08-2007, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GAVol The only slight knock on Reed is that he didn't win a Super Bowl while Monk and Irvin did, but . . . that didn't stop them from putting Thurman Thomas in. | I personally don't think Thomas should be in. He was a good running back, but not great IMO. I remember right after he lost the fumble in Super Bowl XXVIII that James Washington took in for a TD, Thomas asked to be taken out of the game with "cramps". That to me is not greatness, especially when the guy on the other sideline was playing through the playoffs with a seperated shoulder.  |
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02-08-2007, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GAVol It is tough to rationalize Michael Irvin being in the HOF while Art Monk and Andre Reed are not.
Michael Irvin - 750 catches - 11,904 yards - 65 TDs
Art Monk - 940 catches - 12,721 yards - 68 TDs
Andre Reed - 951 catches - 13,198 yards - 87 TDs | All three of those guys should be in, and then it wouldn't be an issue. The WR position has not received a lot of love over the past decade or so by hall voters. Check out the number of WRs compared to the number of offensive linemen to make it over that period. That is hard to rationalize. Linemen inducted '97-07 (11)
Mike Webster
Anthony Munoz
Dwight Stevenson
Tom Mack
Billy Shaw
Mike Munchak
Jackie Slater
Ron Yary
Bob Brown
Rayfield Wright
Bruce Mathews WR inducted '97-07 (5)
Tommy McDonald
Lynn Swan
John Stallworth
James Lofton
Michael Irvin
Forgive me if I missed anybody, but the list does serve to demonstrate the point.
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02-08-2007, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cotton All three of those guys should be in, and then it wouldn't be an issue. The WR position has not received a lot of love over the past decade or so by hall voters. Check out the number of WRs compared to the number of offensive guards to make it over that period. That is hard to rationalize. | Um... IMO, the offensive line are the five most important positions on any football team.
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02-08-2007, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by milohimself Um... IMO, the offensive line are the five most important positions on any football team. | You could argue that about a lot of positions, but that isn't what I was trying to say. Do you think there were twice as many O-linemen deserving of Hall of Fame induction during that period as there were receivers? I don't, so in essence, I think the WR position has some catching up to do. |
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02-08-2007, 09:47 PM
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02-09-2007, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by milohimself Excellent pun. | Unintended, but your appreciation is appreciated  |
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