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06-18-2012, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by n_huffhines LT was overrated, IMO. Great player, but his line was amazing:
2004: LT - 3.9 ypc, Chatman 6.0 ypc
2005: LT - 4.3 ypc, Turner 5.9 ypc
2006: LT - 5.5 ypc, Turner 6.3 ypc, Neal 4.8 ypc
2007: LT - 4.7 ypc, Turner - 4.5 ypc, Sproles - 4.4 ypc
2008: LT - 3.8 ypc, Sproles - 5.5 ypc | This is the dumbest post I've ever seen on here.
Yards/Carry....really?
And when was his line amazing? I remember LT being the only bright spot on some crappy Chargers teams for years.
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06-18-2012, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jestes311 This is the dumbest post I've ever seen on here.
Yards/Carry....really?
And when was his line amazing? I remember LT being the only bright spot on some crappy Chargers teams for years. | LULZ
What you mean by that last statement is you remember LT being the only bright spot among the skill positions. The line was legit all along. |
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06-18-2012, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jestes311 | It's not rocket science. Those stats were achieved with an OL blocking for him. Those stats do not capture how good his line was, so they don't answer the question of whether or not LT should get less credit, and his line should get more. |
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06-19-2012, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by n_huffhines I'm not comparing LT to Sproles. I'm showing that LT enjoyed a dominant OL. No matter who was running, they were having success. | Sproles sure has struggled since leaving the Chargers |
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06-19-2012, 01:59 PM
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| I'll trust my eyes on this one. He had the best moves and running ability for several years, and it wasn't close. His jump step was nasty. The only thing that currently compares is Lesean McCoy, but he's not the complete runner Tomlinson was. |
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06-19-2012, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by n_huffhines Except for virtually everybody says Emmitt was great, but then they qualify it with "but he had an awesome line". I'd say the fact that they take that into account means he isn't overrated.
Nobody really points that out when they talk about LT. | So LT was overrated because he had a great line, but Emmitt isnt overrated when he had a great line as well.................makes sense to me. |
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06-19-2012, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BearCat204 So LT was overrated because he had a great line, but Emmitt isnt overrated when he had a great line as well.................makes sense to me. | Are you really not getting this? Think about the definition of "overrated" and then think good and hard about my statement. |
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06-19-2012, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by n_huffhines Are you really not getting this? Think about the definition of "overrated" and then think good and hard about my statement. | I understand the term "overrated" and I understand how you are using it in this situation............I disagree that he is overrated in any sense or use of the word. |
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06-19-2012, 02:23 PM
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| Overrated = Over appreciated
So the reason LT is over appreciated is that virtually nobody mentions how good his O line was, and even somebody in this thread stated that LT was "the one bright spot". All the credit is given to LT, no credit is given to the dominant line.
The reason Emmitt is not over appreciated is because virtually everybody gives substantial credit to his dominant line. |
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06-19-2012, 02:26 PM
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| I wonder if LT hadnt have gone to the Jets and instead retired 4 years ago, would we be having this ridiculous conversation that he was overrated? For 6 straight years, he was one of the best RBs every to play imo. |
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06-19-2012, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by n_huffhines Overrated = Over appreciated
So the reason LT is over appreciated is that virtually nobody mentions how good his O line was, and even somebody in this thread stated that LT was "the one bright spot". All the credit is given to LT, no credit is given to the dominant line.
The reason Emmitt is not over appreciated is because virtually everybody gives substantial credit to his dominant line. |
Yeah, we arent going to agree here |
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06-19-2012, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BearCat204 I wonder if LT hadnt have gone to the Jets and instead retired 4 years ago, would we be having this ridiculous conversation that he was overrated? For 6 straight years, he was one of the best RBs every to play imo. | That's actually when I started saying he was overrated. He was great, but people were saying stuff like "Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, and LT."
I just didn't think that LT deserved to be in that conversation. |
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06-19-2012, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by n_huffhines That's actually when I started saying he was overrated. He was great, but people were saying stuff like "Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, and LT."
I just didn't think that LT deserved to be in that conversation. | LT certainly belongs in the same discussion with those RBs, especially when you take his 2002-2008 seasons. His stats are there |
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06-19-2012, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BearCat204 LT certainly belongs in the same discussion with those RBs, especially when you take his 2002-2008 seasons. His stats are there | I'm guessing you would say Emmitt Smith is the weakest of those 5. Let's compare their resumes:
LT: - 13,684 Rush Yards, 145 TD's, 4.3 YPC, 80.5 Y/G
- 4,772 Receiving Yards, 17 TD's, 7.6 YPR
Smith: - 18,355 Rush Yards, 164 TD's, 4.2 YPC, 81.2 Y/G
- 3,224 Receiving Yards, 11 TD's, 6.3 YPR
Now factor in that Emmitt was good for 12-13 seasons, and LT was only good for 9 seasons. Factor in that Emmitt led his team to 3 SBs, and was a clutch performer. I don't think they are in the same conversation. In their elite primes they were pretty comparable, but career-wise it's not even close. |
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