Is Eli a first ballot HOF?

[milohimself]

Because 2iron raised some dissent about the issue.

[2ironVol]

Not yet he isn't. Almost everyone that forgot more than any of us will ever know are saying the same thing.

He's got to string together some more consistent seasons before being considered.

Sorry, but that is likely fact as it stands right now

Milo, even if this poll overwhelmingly says yes, it doesn't support your argument. You do a poll among current HOFers, ex-player analysts and ex-coach analysts and your feelings would be hurt.

[golfballs]

I'll believe it when I see it

[Yankee_Vol]

Yes. and I think he'll have another ring before it's all said and done

[milohimself]

Originally Posted by 2ironVol

Not yet he isn't. Almost everyone that forgot more than any of us will ever know are saying the same thing.

He's got to string together some more consistent seasons before being considered.

Sorry, but that is likely fact as it stands right now

Milo, even if this poll overwhelmingly says yes, it doesn't support your argument. You do a poll among current HOFers, ex-player analysts and ex-coach analysts and your feelings would be hurt.

First, my feeling won't be hurt. Sorry. I hate the Giants.

Second, I've avoided SportsCenter for the most part since the end of the conference championship games, but when I have tuned in, the majority of the pundits I have heard are of the opinion that Eli is in the same ballpark now as Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Brady, etc. and I have heard HOF tossed around more than once.

[2ironVol]

Originally Posted by milohimself

First, my feeling won't be hurt. Sorry. I hate the Giants.

Second, I've avoided SportsCenter for the most part since the end of the conference championship games, but when I have tuned in, the majority of the pundits I have heard are of the opinion that Eli is in the same ballpark now as Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Brady, etc. and I have heard HOF tossed around more than once.

AT this moment he is about as good as some of those guys, but he still hasn't shown enough consistency in previous years to merit consideration. Every analyst has said the same thing. Heck, he threw 25 interceptions in 2010.

There's simply no way he would get voted in were he to have a career ending injury next season.

I believe he will get in, but not based on his career up to this point. Sorry, but that's a consensus among the group I mentioned in my previous post.

[n_huffhines]

Originally Posted by milohimself

Because 2iron raised some dissent about the issue.

He'll have respectable career stats + multiple SB's. No question he's first-ballot.

[2ironVol]

Originally Posted by nbakerld

He'll have respectable career stats + multiple SB's. No question he's first-ballot.

Not right now he isn't. He might eventually get there, but it's almost a fact he wouldn't get in right now, at least based on what current HOFers are saying. Too many interceptions in previous years.

Quite honestly, he wouldn't get within sniffing distance were there to be a vote for him right now. Sorry

[n_huffhines]

Originally Posted by 2ironVol

Not right now he isn't. He might eventually get there, but it's almost a fact he wouldn't get in right now, at least based on what current HOFers are saying. Too many interceptions in previous years.

Quite honestly, he wouldn't get within sniffing distance were there to be a vote for him right now. Sorry

Brett Favre will be first ballot HOF with only 1 SB, and more INT's. They actually both have thrown INT's on 3.3% of their career attempts.

Who said anything about right now? I'm just assuming he has 5-8 more years of 3500+ yards and 25+ TD's.

[2ironVol]

2005 24 tds 17 ints
2006 24 tds 18 ints
2007 23 tds 20 ints SB win
2008 21 tds 10 ints
2009 27 tds 14 ints
2010 31 tds 25 ints
2011 29 tds 16 ints SB win

Numbers not nearly prolific enough to merit consideration were he to not play ever again. Way too many ints as well. The two Super Bowls are awesome, but he is going to need more years like 2009 and 2011 before there is even a thought to him getting into the HOF.

[n_huffhines]

Terry Bradshaw* and Troy Aikman* are laughing at you.

*212 TD's, 210 INT's
**165 TD's, 142 INT's

Eli has 185 TD's and 129 INT's....and about half his career left.

[golfballs]

Not a slam dunk

[2ironVol]

Originally Posted by nbakerld

Brett Favre will be first ballot HOF with only 1 SB, and more INT's. They actually both have thrown INT's on 3.3% of their career attempts.

Who said anything about right now? I'm just assuming he has 5-8 more years of 3500+ yards and 25+ TD's.

Milo made the statement in another thread that after this Super Bowl win, that Eli was ALREADY a first ballot HOFer.

I agree he will get in after a few more good years

[2ironVol]

Originally Posted by nbakerld

Terry Bradshaw* and Troy Aikman* are laughing at you.

*212 TD's, 210 INT's
**165 TD's, 142 INT's

Eli has 185 TD's and 129 INT's....and about half his career left.

Bradshaw has 4 SBs and Aikman has 3. If Manning wins another one, he'll get in regardless of stats

[n_huffhines]

If his career ended today, probably not first-ballot, but probably still HOF.