Your Thoughts On The Players Wanting More Money

[orangetaz]

I think their all greedy blank holes.We are all struggling to make ends meet,and they are complaining they dont make enough.It makes me sick.I cant afford my electric bill much less a car,and they have all this money,and want more.Makes me

[VKAman]

Originally Posted by orangetaz

I think their all greedy blank holes.We are all struggling to make ends meet,and they are complaining they dont make enough.It makes me sick.I cant afford my electric bill much less a car,and they have all this money,and want more.Makes me

Is that what they're complaining about? A strike is when players hold out for more money, but this is a lockout; it's the owners. There does need to be a cap on rookie salaries, but the owners are the ones pushing an 18-game schedule, using the players for the sole purpose of making money for themselves. It's like the BCS or a 96-team NCAAT; they're pushing something that NO ONE wants to see, just so they can make money. That's on Goodell and the owners.
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[Vol_til_I_die]

I don't think it's about money on the players' end. They have said they'd like the CBA to remain the same. Besides, it's a lockout, not a strike.
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[Weezy]

Not only that, but the previous agreement had a number for the percentage of money that is supposed to go to player salaries (something like 40 or 60%), but the owners wont make their books available to the players union.

[milohimself]

Yep. This decision is coming from the owners.

Have the owners even gone so far as to up salaries and expand rosters with the 18 game schedule, or are they still just trying to make these guys play two extra games?

And besides, these guys are not overpaid crybabies. There are a handful of prima donnas, but the vast majority of guys who play in the league are some schmoe who gets on a roster, sees a little bit of game time, makes practice squads for a few years then leaves with a lifetime of injuries and soreness with only a few hundred grand to show for it. The NFL is not showing near as much care for their ex players as they should be.

[superdave1984]

Originally Posted by milohimself

Yep. This decision is coming from the owners.

Have the owners even gone so far as to up salaries and expand rosters with the 18 game schedule, or are they still just trying to make these guys play two extra games?

And besides, these guys are not overpaid crybabies. There are a handful of prima donnas, but the vast majority of guys who play in the league are some schmoe who gets on a roster, sees a little bit of game time, makes practice squads for a few years then leaves with a lifetime of injuries and soreness with only a few hundred grand to show for it. The NFL is not showing near as much care for their ex players as they should be.

Here's the issue behind it all. The healthcare of former players.

[Cartervol]

Healthcare and the rookie salary cap are the two main things. The 18 game schedule is a bad idea in my opinion but it looks like that will happen regardless.

[VKAman]

Originally Posted by Cartervol

Healthcare and the rookie salary cap are the two main things. The 18 game schedule is a bad idea in my opinion but it looks like that will happen regardless.

The 18 game schedule is a big part of the "safety of players" issue. It's not just about former players.
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[doozer]

right now, i'm having a hard time believing there will be a season next year.

[milohimself]

Originally Posted by doozer

right now, i'm having a hard time believing there will be a season next year.

I'm thinking there will be a short season.
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[milohimself]

Originally Posted by Cartervol

Healthcare and the rookie salary cap are the two main things. The 18 game schedule is a bad idea in my opinion but it looks like that will happen regardless.

The NFLPA is still holding firm completely against 18 games, as I think they should. The owners are not budging on it either though.

If I had to bet I'd say it will happen but not without improved healthcare and bumped salaries.
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[Vercingetorix]

Originally Posted by orangetaz

I think their all greedy blank holes.We are all struggling to make ends meet,and they are complaining they dont make enough.It makes me sick.I cant afford my electric bill much less a car,and they have all this money,and want more.Makes me

And this right here is why the owners know that they can basically impose whatever system they want, because they're guaranteed to win any labor dispute.

[Ohio Vol]

I might be the only one who thinks that an 18-game schedule would actually cause less of a physical toll than a 16-game schedule. I say this for the following reasons.

1) Hitting starts early and often in training camp and lasts the entire preseason for multiple practices per day

2) Most teams, during the season, do hitting either two or three days, with one of them being a minimal-contact day

3) Most teams, once a playoff spot has been secured, rest their starters

4) Most teams, as the season progresses, scale back on the hitting a bit so guys don't get hurt in practice

5) Ergo, if there are only two preseason games and a reduction in the length of training camp PLUS an increase in the number of games (and therefore in important moments), the hitting during the practice week would not only be scaled back further, but dropped down to a minimum very quickly

[milohimself]

Sketchy logic at work there, but it guarantees a worse product.

The last week or maybe two of the regular season are already pretty worthless, why make it worse?

[justingroves]

If the NFL expands to 18 games, rosters need to expand to around 65 with 54 or so guys active on gameday.

I'm against the 18 game schedule myself.