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04-23-2008, 02:12 PM
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| He's a star with a superstar's personality, which is part of being a superstar. He's not a franchise player, but he's in the category of the second-tier guys that, with the right franchise guy and supporting cast, I believe could help a team to a title. To me he's a more marketable Ray Allen. I probably went too far as to call him a definite superstar, but he's as much a superstar as T-Mac IMO, who has underperformed in the playoffs and whined his way out of Orlando and into second-tier star status in the L. |
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04-23-2008, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pricevol5 He's a star with a superstar's personality, which is part of being a superstar. He's not a franchise player, but he's in the category of the second-tier guys that, with the right franchise guy and supporting cast, I believe could help a team to a title. To me he's a more marketable Ray Allen. I probably went too far as to call him a definite superstar, but he's as much a superstar as T-Mac IMO, who has underperformed in the playoffs and whined his way out of Orlando and into second-tier star status in the L. | not a chance. T-Mac might have disappeared a lot in playoff games, but he is a dramatically better overall player than Arenas. |
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04-23-2008, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol not a chance. T-Mac might have disappeared a lot in playoff games, but he is a dramatically better overall player than Arenas. | I agree that T-Mac is the better player but they're in the same category when it comes to franchise players and second-tier stars. They both need to play with a franchise guy to get to the next level in this league. T-Mac can no longer be discussed in the same category as Duncan, Kobe, Lebron, Paul, Garnett, and Nash. |
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04-23-2008, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pricevol5 He's a star with a superstar's personality, which is part of being a superstar. | No. he's a clueless, conscience free gunner. He has the personality of exactly what he is: An idiot. |
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04-23-2008, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pricevol5 To me he's a more marketable Ray Allen. | Remind me again how many major motion pictures Arenas has starred in. |
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04-23-2008, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 No. he's a clueless, conscience free gunner. He has the personality of exactly what he is: An idiot. | I'm not going to argue with you when it's clearly obvious you have a personal vendetta against Gilbert for some reason. I personally find him amusing, and think that he has worked extremely hard to prove his naysayers wrong at every level. This is a case that is exactly like JP Prince with you. You personally do not like him, therefore, he a horrible basketball player and human being in your eyes. |
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04-23-2008, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pricevol5 I personally find him amusing. | It must be nice to be that easily amused. |
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04-23-2008, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 It must be nice to be that easily amused. | It's a lot more gratifying to go about life that way. I've found the cynical, know-it-all approach to be extremely depressing and hard to be around. |
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04-23-2008, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pricevol5 I've found the cynical, know-it-all approach to be extremely depressing and hard to be around. | Strange, I find it to be empowering and that it keeps imbeciles away. |
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04-23-2008, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 Strange, I find it to be empowering and that it keeps imbeciles away. | Whatever makes you happy... |
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