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Old 01-23-2013, 01:23 AM   #271
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Kyrie was better last year. He's decent, but nothing special.
He's plenty special. As a numbers guy, how can you not like Irving? Good FG%, very good 3PFG%, very good FT%. He's very good at scoring and will eventually be very good at setting up his teammates.

He's 20.
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Old 01-23-2013, 02:56 AM   #272
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:04 AM   #273
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He's plenty special. As a numbers guy, how can you not like Irving? Good FG%, very good 3PFG%, very good FT%. He's very good at scoring and will eventually be very good at setting up his teammates.

He's 20.
I'm not saying he doesn't show promise. I'm saying right now, this season, he's above average. I expect him to get better in the next few years. He's a good scorer, but bad with turnovers...not a good distributor at all.
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Put it this way, to break even as a distributor (2:1 assist-to-turnover), Irving would need to average 7.4 apg...just to be average...he's getting 5.7 apg. He's got a ton of room for improvement there.
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Definitely does. Team around him also sorta sucks sometimes.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:32 AM   #276
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Yeah, but at his limited time at Duke his turnovers were pretty bad, too (6.3 ap36 and 3.4 top36). I just think he has some bad habits he needs to break. I don't think it's about his teammates...he's not winning any championships with these guys, but what I mean is they aren't hurting his productivity.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:39 AM   #277
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If you were a GM would you take him on your team
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Alright, at Duke, he played 11 games, and four of those shouldn't count because of his injury.

Plus, he literally has no one else to help him out. He has the worst group of big men in the league with Andy Varejao. And when Varejao was playing, Kyrie was hurt.

His starting shooting guard doesn't even shoot 40% from the field. Dude has ZERO HELP.
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That's a tough question. What is my alternative? There are better bargains out there, but like I said he will improve. Forgetting about salary, he's above average so if all you're asking is if he's talented enough for me to want him then the answer is yes.
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Alright, at Duke, he played 11 games, and four of those shouldn't count because of his injury.

Plus, he literally has no one else to help him out. He has the worst group of big men in the league with Andy Varejao. And when Varejao was playing, Kyrie was hurt.

His starting shooting guard doesn't even shoot 40% from the field. Dude has ZERO HELP.
He has 2 good big men. Tristan Thompson is a nice player. He's outplaying Irving. I don't think anybody with 2 solid bigs can complain.

He's the 3rd best player on his team.
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That's a tough question. What is my alternative? There are better bargains out there, but like I said he will improve. Forgetting about salary, he's above average so if all you're asking is if he's talented enough for me to want him then the answer is yes.
Which point guards would you take over him? Don't take salary into account.
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He has 2 good big men. Tristan Thompson is a nice player. He's outplaying Irving. I don't think anybody with 2 solid bigs can complain.

He's the 3rd best player on his team.
Andy is out. Kyrie and Andy have only played four games together. And again, have you seen his wings players? Alonzo Gee and C.J. Miles? Really?
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Which point guards would you take over him? Don't take salary into account.
I wanna play! Rondo, Paul, Westbrook, Rose, MAYBE Steph Curry....all i can think of right now
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Which point guards would you take over him? Don't take salary into account.
Forget about forward thinking and his potential...if I want to win a game tomorrow, I take:

Chris Paul
Jason Kidd
Rajon Rondo
Tony Parker
Jose Calderon
Steph Curry
Russell Westbrook
Mike Conley
Kyle Lowry
Darren Collison
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forget about forward thinking and his potential...if i want to win a game tomorrow, i take:

Chris paul
jason kidd
rajon rondo
tony parker
jose calderon
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russell westbrook
mike conley
kyle lowry
darren collison
goran dragic
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