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View Poll Results: Which Stat Would You Prefer Tracked? | |
And Ones
|     | 0 | 0% | |
And Ones Converted
|    | 0 | 0% | |
Defensive Touches
|    | 2 | 14.29% | |
Turnovers Forced
|    | 4 | 28.57% | |
Pass-to-Assist
|    | 6 | 42.86% | |
Saves
|    | 1 | 7.14% | |
Fouls Forced
| | 1 | 7.14% |
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06-18-2012, 09:19 PM
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#1 (permalink)
| | Short Sided
Join Date: Mar 2009  Location: AZ
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| Which Statistic Would You Like To See Tracked?
Just out of curiosity.
And Ones: self explanatory
And Ones Converted: self explanatory
Defensive Touches: blocks, steals, tipped passes, etc.
Turnovers Forced: steals, charges earned, travel forced, etc.
Pass-to-Assist: the initial pass on a bang bang two-pass scoring play.
Saves: a hustle play that saves possession (excluding off rebounds)
Fouls Forced: any foul drawn other than late game intentionals
Last edited by n_huffhines; 06-18-2012 at 09:23 PM..
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06-18-2012, 09:25 PM
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#2 (permalink)
| | Drop The Leash
Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Knoxville
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| Pass to assist. | 
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06-18-2012, 09:38 PM
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#3 (permalink)
| | Go Heat!
Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montgomery, AL
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| Pass to assist | |
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06-18-2012, 10:06 PM
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#4 (permalink)
| | #natitude
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NC
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| Hockey assists | |
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06-18-2012, 11:32 PM
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#5 (permalink)
| | Grizzlies!
Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Memphis
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| Defensive touches.. Deflections, tipped passes, etc. | |
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06-19-2012, 12:42 AM
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#6 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Winchester, TN
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| I voted turnovers forced. | |
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06-19-2012, 10:46 AM
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#7 (permalink)
| | #natitude
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Originally Posted by Mr_Henley  I voted turnovers forced. | Lotta gray area | |
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06-19-2012, 11:34 AM
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#8 (permalink)
| | Short Sided
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: AZ
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| I would like to see all of them tracked, but I chose turnovers forced. There may be judgment calls in the scoring of the stat, that's the case for all of these to some degree.
I took turnovers forced over pass to assist, because advanced stats show that a turnover has twice the value of an assist. A PG may only have a pass-to-assist 1-4 times per game, and a good defender might be forcing 2 or 3 non-steal turnovers per game. I think there is more value in tracking turnovers*.
*currently if you force a bad pass out of bounds, draw a charge, force a travel, block a shot where your team gains possession, etc, you are only given partial to 0 statistical credit for making these great plays. | |
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06-19-2012, 11:45 AM
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#9 (permalink)
| | #natitude
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| It's just a matter of "what's the difference between 'forcing' a travel, and a dude just screwing up and traveling?"
Same for out of bounds plays.
But I do like the sentiment, for sure. | |
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06-19-2012, 11:51 AM
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#10 (permalink)
| | Short Sided
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| It's going to be a judgment call by the scorekeeper. Just like with a pass-to-assist, you're going to have to draw the line somewhere. What if the guy scoring takes 2 dribbles? Does the initial passer get an PtA to his credit? Even assists are judgment calls.
With an and-one, the judgment call is made by the official. Continuation? Was it really a legitimate foul? Etc. | |
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06-19-2012, 09:09 PM
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#11 (permalink)
| | Rational Thought Allowed?
| How many times Kendrick Perkins bear-hugs the opposition.
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06-23-2012, 10:22 AM
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#12 (permalink)
| | This We'll Defend
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| None of them | |
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06-23-2012, 11:36 AM
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#13 (permalink)
| | Made in Memphis
Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Memphis
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| Turnovers forced. | |
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06-23-2012, 09:32 PM
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#14 (permalink)
| | Give me 3 more!!!
| I would love to see defensive touches start getting recorded. I'm not much of a fan for the other stuff. | |
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06-23-2012, 09:33 PM
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#15 (permalink)
| | Give me 3 more!!!
| I would love to see flopping count, also. | |
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