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02-29-2012, 10:12 AM
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| Tobias Harris Advanced Stats show that Harris is possibly the Bucks' best player, and he's only getting 12 minutes per game. His stats:
Harris (per 36 minutes) - 18.8 pp, 7.3 rp, 1.1 sp, and 0.9 bp, shooting .565 TS% (second to Dunleavy's .574).
So Harris has only appeared in 20 games, so we don't know enough to say we should expect this from him every night. We do know enough to say that he should be getting at least 25 mpg until he proves otherwise. |
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02-29-2012, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by nbakerld Advanced Stats show that Harris is possibly the Bucks' best player, and he's only getting 12 minutes per game. His stats:
Harris (per 36 minutes) - 18.8 pp, 7.3 rp, 1.1 sp, and 0.9 bp, shooting .565 TS% (second to Dunleavy's .574).
So Harris has only appeared in 20 games, so we don't know enough to say we should expect this from him every night. We do know enough to say that he should be getting at least 25 mpg until he proves otherwise. | I agree! By those numbers he's one of the best rookies in the league. |
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02-29-2012, 07:34 PM
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| Would be awesome if he averaged those numbers but I'm not convinced he would. Most people don't replicate the same numbers over longer spans and a lot of his minutes have been garbage minutes.
Also, it doesn't factor in defense. It's probably safe to say that the majority of 19 year old rookies don't play very good defense. |
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03-01-2012, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Orange_Pearl Would be awesome if he averaged those numbers but I'm not convinced he would. Most people don't replicate the same numbers over longer spans and a lot of his minutes have been garbage minutes.
Also, it doesn't factor in defense. It's probably safe to say that the majority of 19 year old rookies don't play very good defense. | Majority of NBA players don't play adequate defense, so I'm not too worried about that.
You are right, in this case we don't know if his numbers will hold true because he's only played the equivalent of 7 games. Once he plays the equivalent 30 or so games, we'll know what we should expect out of him when doubling his minutes.
Numbers do pretty much hold true. Ryan Anderson has basically been the same exact player for 3 years. Going from 14 minutes in 2010 to 31 minutes in 2012 his numbers per minute are almost exactly the same. I say he's the most improved player, but really what's mostly improved is the # of minutes his coach gives him:
2010 = 19.3 pp, 8.0 rp, .574 TS%, 14 mpg
2011 = 17.2 pp, 9.0 rp, .591 TS%, 22 mpg
2012 = 18.7 pp, 8.6 rp, .600 TS%, 31 mpg |
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03-01-2012, 02:25 PM
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| I'm surprised Tobias is getting 12 mpg. I was under the impression he only saw garbage time. |
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03-03-2012, 04:49 PM
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| He's got more developing to go |
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03-04-2012, 09:42 AM
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| They gave him the start yesterday, and he played 20. He was so-so. |
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03-21-2012, 07:25 AM
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| He scored 7 points while shooting 3/3 from the field and 1/1 from the line in 4 minutes last night against the Blazers. No other stats.
They were garbage minutes and it was the last 4 minutes of the game. He scored all 7 in the span of one and a half minutes, 1:33 to be he exact. He scored at the 2:11, 1:55 and 0:38(and 1) mark.
Bucks won 116-87. They've won 6 in a row, 2-0 with Monta.
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04-20-2012, 08:02 PM
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| Just wanted to say this about Tobias Harris yesterday on twitter when he was in Indiana He asked who in Indiana was a Vols Fan and I responded to him and He ended up giving me two tickets to the game between the Pacers and Bucks. Just a great gesture from a guy who is still recognizing the Vol Nation. |
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04-20-2012, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SJAVol32 Just wanted to say this about Tobias Harris yesterday on twitter when he was in Indiana He asked who in Indiana was a Vols Fan and I responded to him and He ended up giving me two tickets to the game between the Pacers and Bucks. Just a great gesture from a guy who is still recognizing the Vol Nation. | That's so cool! |
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04-20-2012, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SJAVol32 Just wanted to say this about Tobias Harris yesterday on twitter when he was in Indiana He asked who in Indiana was a Vols Fan and I responded to him and He ended up giving me two tickets to the game between the Pacers and Bucks. Just a great gesture from a guy who is still recognizing the Vol Nation. | Great stuff! |
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04-21-2012, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SJAVol32 Just wanted to say this about Tobias Harris yesterday on twitter when he was in Indiana He asked who in Indiana was a Vols Fan and I responded to him and He ended up giving me two tickets to the game between the Pacers and Bucks. Just a great gesture from a guy who is still recognizing the Vol Nation. | Awesome!
I'm a Pacers fan so naturally I'm not big on the Bucks but I've wanted him to do well and have been on the Bucks forum asking about him from time to time.
Wonder what he thought of that fight that broke out at the end of the game. Dunleavy/Hansbrough got into it a bit. Then Larry Sanders got into it with George Hill and David West jumped in to back Hill up. Sanders proceeded to stick his finger in West's face and the two started going at each other. It ended up with Bucks players holding Sanders back, he broke free and ran at Pacers players before being restrained again by one of his teammates. He was almost fighting his own teammate to break free. I thought it was going to be the Palace Brawl in Detroit all over again. Minus players running into the crowd and beating up fans. Everything escalated really quickly. It was intense...
The way it escalated was bad enough that I thought a fight would break out and was fearing Pacers players being suspended for the playoffs. Not a good way to end the game.
Tobias is the man though. Love that guy.
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04-21-2012, 03:58 PM
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04-21-2012, 06:24 PM
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| | smh | Looks like sanders got too much into that lame "hold me back, bro" thing |
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