All-Star race - Page 2

aksn907 · 05-18-2008, 11:27 AM

Does anyone else think it is stupid to allow the 2nd place driver in the Showdown to make it into the All Star race? Come on this is the All Star race, not the "My Best Finish is a 2nd Place in a Watered Down Race, with People and/or Equipment Not Good Enough to Win a Race in a Year and a Half."

And while I'm complaining. I like Elliott Sadler, but what he said last night made him look stupid. I guess he forgot what he did last week to Stewart.

And don't get me started on Darrell Waltrip's love fest with Kyle Busch.

Vol Mania 21 · 05-18-2008, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocky-Top 10EC

Eury Jr is showing up the other two championship crew chiefs at Hendrick, so he is doing something right. HMS is missing something big time right now.

Is Eury Jr really showing up the other two? Or is it Dale actually has good equipment and is a heck of a driver and is doing this pretty much on his own? if he had a decent crew chief he would've already won a few races. but Eury Jr screws it up at the end and dale's chances of winning go down the toliet

rbroyles · 05-18-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vol Mania 21

Is Eury Jr really showing up the other two? Or is it Dale actually has good equipment and is a heck of a driver and is doing this pretty much on his own? if he had a decent crew chief he would've already won a few races. but Eury Jr screws it up at the end and dale's chances of winning go down the toliet

If Dale, Jr. had Chad Knauss, his record would resemble J. Johnson from last year.

rbroyles · 05-18-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by doozer

yeah, the whole point of the new car was to get away from the twisted car look that they were using for the old car. the Busch cars are still twisted, and now they're yawing on the body's of the COT as well.

what i don't get is how there wasn't a rule about this. in fact, i was under the impression that any modification to the body would result in a huge fine and suspension.

This is not a body modification, it is done with the rear axle of the car and the chassis.

rbroyles · 05-18-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aksn907

Does anyone else think it is stupid to allow the 2nd place driver in the Showdown to make it into the All Star race? Come on this is the All Star race, not the "My Best Finish is a 2nd Place in a Watered Down Race, with People and/or Equipment Not Good Enough to Win a Race in a Year and a Half."

And while I'm complaining. I like Elliott Sadler, but what he said last night made him look stupid. I guess he forgot what he did last week to Stewart.

And don't get me started on Darrell Waltrip's love fest with Kyle Busch.

I thought the same as to the 2nd place driver and the fan favorite as well, but I guess the 9 team makes that look like a bad call.

Elliott Sadler will never be mistaken for a great thinker.

doozer · 05-18-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rbroyles

This is not a body modification, it is done with the rear axle of the car and the chassis.

i did not know that.

Vol Mania 21 · 05-18-2008, 01:16 PM

i thought what elliot said was pretty funny

kkep48 · 05-18-2008, 04:33 PM

Not only is it ridiculous that the 2nd place winner gets in, it's even more ridiculous that the fans get to vote someone in.

rbroyles · 05-18-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kkep48

Not only is it ridiculous that the 2nd place winner gets in, it's even more ridiculous that the fans get to vote someone in.

Does the fact that he won the race make any difference?

Vol Mania 21 · 05-18-2008, 06:03 PM

i just wish jr had a crew chief that wasn't an idiot

doozer · 05-18-2008, 06:13 PM

i'm not a Eury fan either, but i don't think there's much more you can ask from the guy right now.

i'll be curious to see how the overall opinion of him changes if he can pull off a few wins. i'd say Junior looks like a prime candidate to be in the hunt for the Championship down to the last race.

volfanbill · 05-18-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kkep48

Not only is it ridiculous that the 2nd place winner gets in, it's even more ridiculous that the fans get to vote someone in.

pleasing the fans is what NASCAR is all about (or used to be), so I don't see why you don't let the fan favorite get in. If you're letting the fan favorite into the Daytona 500, that's one thing, but for a non points race, I don't understand how it's an issue.

rbroyles · 05-18-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by doozer

i'm not a Eury fan either, but i don't think there's much more you can ask from the guy right now.

i'll be curious to see how the overall opinion of him changes if he can pull off a few wins. i'd say Junior looks like a prime candidate to be in the hunt for the Championship down to the last race.

That sounds on the spot to me.

kkep48 · 05-18-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rbroyles

Does the fact that he won the race make any difference?

No, this year was the one exception where the fan vote winner actually has a chance to win. Usually it's a Kenny Wallace or Kyle Petty getting voted in, which completely diminishes the entire concept of the race, being the best of the best. I have no problem with Kahne winning, I just have a problem allowing fans vote a guy in who USUALLY doesn't deserve it.

doozer · 05-18-2008, 10:02 PM

-i have no problem with the fan vote
-i wish they would bring back the vote to invert the field.
-and make the final segment 50 laps, thereby forcing a stop
-the Open is a heat race. since these guys have been driving, most heat races take the top 2 into the next race, be it the last chance, A-Main, B-Main, etc.
-lose the burnout contest