Is the Junior Nation becoming bad for the sport?

rbroyles · 05-06-2008, 08:20 PM

The incident at Richmond between Kyle Busch and Dale Earnhardt Jr. has once again shown the extent of the Junior Nation's ability to get riled up over their hero being done wrong. Given the zealousness of some and the propensity to over react by throwing objects at the wrongdoer, and making threats exampled by Wind Tunnel on Speed Channel, is the Jr. Nation becoming detrimental to the sport? Are there people having second thoughts about attending a race for fear of violence, particularly those desiring to take children? Are drivers more careful around Jr. due to fear of getting on the wrong side of the Nation?

Fine Vol · 05-06-2008, 08:27 PM

I dont know what the Nation has done but I think it just shows the class of the NASCAR fans as a whole.

tclowers23 · 05-06-2008, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fine Vol

I dont know what the Nation has done but I think it just shows the class of the NASCAR fans as a whole.

So basically what you're saying is that ALL NASCAR fans have no class. Or did I misunderstand your statement?

tclowers23 · 05-06-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rbroyles

The incident at Richmond between Kyle Busch and Dale Earnhardt Jr. has once again shown the extent of the Junior Nation's ability to get riled up over their hero being done wrong. Given the zealousness of some and the propensity to over react by throwing objects at the wrongdoer, and making threats exampled by Wind Tunnel on Speed Channel, is the Jr. Nation becoming detrimental to the sport? Are there people having second thoughts about attending a race for fear of violence, particularly those desiring to take children? Are drivers more careful around Jr. due to fear of getting on the wrong side of the Nation?

Are New York Yankees fans bad for baseball?

Vol Mania 21 · 05-07-2008, 12:08 AM

rbroyles · 05-07-2008, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tclowers23

Are New York Yankees fans bad for baseball?

Do NY Yankee fans fit the description given? Here is an article from NASCAR. com.

Fanning the flames
Dennis Rodman

If anyone's a fan of the original Frankenstein movie, you can't forget the scene in which the villagers, armed en masse with torches, chased down the good doctor's "monster" with the intent of causing his demise.

Well, I have it from good sources that the scene post-race at Richmond on Saturday night resembled that, sans torches.

I'm truly sorry the FOX cameras missed the display of middle fingers that my boys told me resembled "the wave" as Busch made his way around the track under caution. That would have been a sight.

I think I understand passion, but I don't think I can fathom, as your guy gets whacked out of the way and potentially out of Victory Lane, taking several hundred dollars worth of scanner equipment and headphones and rearranging them into a dozen pieces on the ground.

And I'm mostly glad Kyle Busch gear was in short supply as the crowd made its way out of the stadium, as my boys told me the mob was actively seeking and speaking their intent of laying waste to any "M&M's fans" they might come across.
And since it was inanimate, the funniest had to be the guys who relieved a nearby convenience store of a Kyle Busch cardboard stand-up, then proceeded to stomp it in the parking lot, before announcing they were "taking it back to camp to find a bonfire."

Ah, passion.

The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer

erob3833 · 05-07-2008, 02:36 AM

i guess there as bad as cub fans then as well!

lll Adidas · 05-07-2008, 07:46 AM

Why limit this to JR Nation? I have been to many sporting events where stuff like this happens. I was at the Bristol Race a few years ago and a few guys started fighting each other because one was a Ga Bulldog talking about the Vols. This is rather commonplace nowadays. You just can't limit it to one type of Fan, that is my Opinion. If not for the fighting then it's the obscenities being thrown around by hecklers at say your fav. (insert favorite popular sport here) game. At least at a Nascar event I can still bring my 8 year old daughter because there is such things as Headphones and earplugs. I guess I'll have to invest in a blindfold next.

doozer · 05-07-2008, 08:31 AM

But Junior fans make up almost 80% of the fans at the race, maybe more, maybe less. The fans don't really act like idiots unless Junior is wronged.

doozer · 05-07-2008, 08:33 AM

Doubl posts. My phone just went haywire. My bad.

TXVOL07 · 05-07-2008, 08:51 AM

Week in the life of Neck Car guy:

Drive rv to the track thursday.
Drink.
Drink and cook Friday.
Drink and watch Busch race Sat.
Drink and cook Sunday morning.
Drink at Nextel race for four hours.
Watch my guy lose in the last 10 laps after leading most of the day.
Remember that I didnt wear sun screen, or shower.
Take a last swig.
Get hacked off at everyone wearing (fill in the blank) driver t-shirt.

It is an enevitable equation for unruly behavior.

McLovin · 05-07-2008, 09:06 AM

Maybe Nascar tracks need jail cells like they have at Lincoln Financial Field where the Philadelphia Eagles play.I believe trouble makers are trouble makers,sort of what
Adidas said. In Nascar,they seem to gravitate towards Dale Jr is all. Anywhere there are large groups of people drinking alcohol all day,there's gonna be a potential for bad behavior,mob mentality style.
I certainly don't think it reflects on Nascar fans as a whole or even Jr.Nation as a whole.

lll Adidas · 05-07-2008, 09:14 AM

Agreed........ my point exactly. Well Said, McLovin.

McLovin · 05-07-2008, 09:25 AM

Thank you, sir!

rbroyles · 05-07-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lll Adidas

Agreed........ my point exactly. Well Said, McLovin.

Good point, I agree all NASCAR fans are not like Jr. fans, and I question they are as high as 80%, but they are a majority. As doozer said, some get unruly when they think Jr. is wronged, not all of course, but when they toss stuff on the track, with potential of hitting other fans as well as the cars, it has crossed the line. And if you have to physically protect yourself because of the shirt you wear, it has gone too far.

As long as I have been going to races, 1961, I have seen fights in the stands. The difference is that then it was one Ford fan disagreeing with one Chevy fan or one Petty fan vs one Pearson fan. You didn't feel any reason to be concerned for your own safety. A fight requires two willing participants, mob mentality doesn't care whether you are willing or not.

So I had the thought, can this situation cause people to have second thoughts about attending a race?