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02-06-2008, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by volfanbill yeah.. since Gibbs, Hendrick, etc are so good, they can pit at their leisure. There's no strategy involved with track position or car setup. Also, Roush cars don't have to worry about gas consumption. | don't tell anybody, but Gibbs is racing the Prius this year. |
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02-06-2008, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 is that my fault, you can't prove a point just by saying he sucks | why? he can't drive. he's not fast. he sucks. |
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02-06-2008, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by doozer don't tell anybody, but Gibbs is racing the Prius this year. | that's an interesting strategy by Gibbs. They may not need to fill up at Bristol or Martinsville. |
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02-06-2008, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by doozer why? he can't drive. he's not fast. he sucks. | and thats not gibbs fault?
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02-06-2008, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 and thats not gibbs fault? | Gibbs gave him everything he needed to be successful. |
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02-06-2008, 09:02 PM
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| its not my fault he totally whiffed on seeing talent there
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02-06-2008, 09:03 PM
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| nobody is blaming you. |
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02-06-2008, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by volfanbill that's an interesting strategy by Gibbs. They may not need to fill up at Bristol or Martinsville. |
I'm still wondering about the hat and the sleeve... |
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02-06-2008, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 But it's not like it was actually because the wood brothers had a strong race team. If you have to resort to races you've won by fuel mileage and strategy then chances are you should just quit. Look, I love teams like RYR, Petty, Wood Brothers, etc. but with the way this sport is changing for the worse, it's only hurting the long time supporters and teams so people such as the Toyota teams, Bobby Ginn, etc to come in within the past 5-7 years and take over and do reasonably well because they have the most money to spend |
"I've watched every Nascar race from the past 8 years I can personally say that those teams don't need strategy to dominate a race. The only races where anyone can win are at Dega and Daytona. Kyle, and a bunch of these bottom feeders are great people, but that doesn't mean that they're decent drivers as of right now"
1. Bobby Ginn folded due to a lack of funding.
2. If it were not for teams like the Pettys and Wood Brothers, you probably wouldn't be watching NASCAR, it would either be gone or still a small time sport.
3. What do you think strategy means? Every team wins with a successful strategy. Do you think they just say to the driver "go get 'em tiger" and expect to win by just trying to hold it wide open all day. there is not enough space to expound on all the different factors a team has to consider.
4. JPM has better car control than most of the drivers out there. I've heard more than one driver say this. His "flaw", if it is a flaw is trying to make openings that aren't quite there. He is trying to make his learning curve as short as possible.
5. 8 years wow, by when I was 21, I had watched every race I could for eight years, now I am 59. So that gives me 46 yrs of watching probably an honest 80% of the races. I have been to Bristol, Charlotte, Daytona, Darlington, Michigan, and Indy. Now that doesn't make me any smarter than anyone else, but I dare to say I know more about racing than most. BTW, my Dad owned a Grand National car, and was on a pit crew on a Cup car in the early days.
5. I do agree the sport is changing for the worse.
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02-06-2008, 11:20 PM
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02-06-2008, 11:33 PM
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| Are you aware of all the drivers, crew chiefs from the Johnson City area?
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02-06-2008, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rbroyles Are you aware of all the drivers, crew chiefs from the Johnson City area? | I know a handful. a buddy of mine is dying to start a racing career. He's hopefully going to race limiteds at Motor Mile this summer. He still talks to some and I've met some through him. My dad knew of several and my papaw knew lots. But that was when I was just a wee little lad.
But as I've stated, my interest has seriously gone downhill since right before Sr's death. I follow the highlights and will usually tune in for the last few laps, but I don't follow it like i did growing up when i watched every lap of any stock car race on television. I really miss kingsport/galaxy speedway though. |
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02-07-2008, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by volfanbill I know a handful. a buddy of mine is dying to start a racing career. He's hopefully going to race limiteds at Motor Mile this summer. He still talks to some and I've met some through him. My dad knew of several and my papaw knew lots. But that was when I was just a wee little lad.
But as I've stated, my interest has seriously gone downhill since right before Sr's death. I follow the highlights and will usually tune in for the last few laps, but I don't follow it like i did growing up when i watched every lap of any stock car race on television. I really miss kingsport/galaxy speedway though. | Drivers from area that raced in NASCAR that come to mind:
Sherman Utsman
John A. Utsman (won at Bristol as relief driver for B. Parsons)
Connie Saylor (went airborne at Daytona once)
Brad Teague
Herman Beam (father of Mike Beam Cup crew chief)
Gene Glover (father of Tony Glover " " ")
George Greene
G. C. Spencer (one of the best of these, D. Waltrips hero)
Joe Johnson -
L. D. Ottinger ( BGN champion)
Plus many who were good local drivers.
BTW, I helped put on the races at the New Kingsport Raceway.
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02-07-2008, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rbroyles Drivers from area that raced in NASCAR that come to mind:
Sherman Utsman
John A. Utsman (won at Bristol as relief driver for B. Parsons)
Connie Saylor (went airborne at Daytona once)
Brad Teague
Herman Beam (father of Mike Beam Cup crew chief)
Gene Glover (father of Tony Glover " " ")
George Greene
G. C. Spencer (one of the best of these, D. Waltrips hero)
? Johnson - cannot remember 1st name raced in 50 -60s.
L. D. Ottinger ( BGN champion)
Plus many who were good local drivers.
BTW, I helped put on the races at the New Kingsport Raceway. | I've met Teague and I'm pretty sure I met GC Spencer. That name sticks out for some reason. |
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02-07-2008, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by volfanbill I've met Teague and I'm pretty sure I met GC Spencer. That name sticks out for some reason. | I watched Brad race at the old Sporstsman Speedway while he was a student at ETSU in the hobby stockers. G. C. worked for Morgan-McClure for many years, the last time I saw him was in Bluff City at the hardware strore. Connie Saylor died of cancer a few years ago, he was at my office about 6 months before he died.
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