Question.. what happens to great bands as they "mature"

[wounded mullet]

lets be honest, good bands aren't like wine, they dont get better with age. They either pussy out and become a hollow shell of themselves or OD and become legends.

I was thinking the other day of bands i loved growing up, the example that came to mind for me was The Smashing Pumpkins,Siamese Dream for me personally was a masterpiece that created a sound i had never heard before and i assumed this was a band that would be making great music for decades beyond. Why do bands seem to peak after a few albums???

maybe its just our own nostalgic youth thinking the music is really better than it was or is it the older we get the less we are in touch with the rawness of good music? I just want to hear a good album these days...

I know everyone on here might look at music different and who is good and not but for the most part i think we can all relate with a band or musician who seemed to define our taste musically that now are distant memories of great music gone by,what happened to good music??

ramble over....

[wbailey7]

Originally Posted by wounded mullet

They either pussy out and become a hollow shell of themselves or OD and become legends.

That wins. I agree completely. I specifically hate it when a band "experiments" and it just completely sucks.

[mattvols]

Weezer was my favorite band since I can remember up.The Blue album and Pinkerton were flaw-less albums. Green album had a couple good tracks but Maladriot was awful. Make Believe was a solid effort and Red Album also had a few solid tracks but they will never be like they were in their prime but they have aged better than most bands.

[superdave1984]

When they got old and don't/can't get the same audience of fans, they go country. Bon Jovi anybody? Hootie?

[666]

I think White Zombie did it perfect. They started as a punk/noise rock band in the mid 80's and quit at the top when they were rock/metal band.

[mattvols]

Originally Posted by superdave1984

When they got old and don't/can't get the same audience of fans, they go country. Bon Jovi anybody? Hootie?

Thats a good pick. Bon Jovi wasn't terrible when they did one country song but I'm a big Bon Jovi fan and I think I listened to Lost Highway all the way through maybe once. I saw them in concert last year and luckily they only played 3 lost highway songs, the rest were old stuff.

[666]

You all don't even know. One of my favorite bands of all time is the ultimate sell out hack bands.

This what they are now. Some screwed up hard rock back. YouTube - In Flames "The Mirrors Truth" Official Video

They were the pioneers of the Gothenburg metal sound following At The Gates. YouTube - In Flames - Lord Hypnos

[rpvol]

tool although they have mellowed a bit still puts out music that is pretty close to where they started imo.

chevelle is another. they are still a young band compared to some but their sound has stayed pretty consistant thru 5 albums. they rock. they don't try to sell wireless service or cars. you go to their shows and you hear music, not some stupid rhetoric. they are at the valarium 9-22 for all those who like american hard rock.

[666]

Originally Posted by rpvol

tool although they have mellowed a bit still puts out music that is pretty close to where they started imo.

Uh, tool started as a rocky garage band. They are nothing like that at all now.

[rpvol]

Originally Posted by 666

Uh, tool started as a rocky garage band. They are nothing like that at all now.

if you compare all their albums, it is not hat much different. the big difference is they have more money now to spend on high production and weird effects. maynard has branched off into different directions sure but tool has stayed pretty close.

they didn't pull a metallica or anything. you never hear "man tool sure has sold out" or "tool has gotten soft" (no pun intended)

just my opinion tho. i like all of their albums. i can listen to 10,000 days and enjoy it as much as opiate.

[666]

Opiate is nothing like 10,000 days and that's my point. They are a complete different band than what they started as regardless if they're still decent.

[rpvol]

i'll give you opiate, but the rest are very similar. opiate was only an ep too...

[GASOUTHERNVOL]

the drugs catch up to them.

I like darius rucker's stuff. that song alright gets old after a bit, but the rest is pretty good

[666]

Originally Posted by rpvol

i'll give you opiate, but the rest are very similar. opiate was only an ep too...

Old Tool - Opiate to Undertow

Modern Tool - Aenima to 10,000 Days

[rpvol]

Originally Posted by 666

Old Tool - Opiate to Undertow

Modern Tool - Aenima to 10,000 Days

i still think the biggest swing (although no that big imo) is between opiate and undertow. i like it all tho...

just can't convince me they have changed that much. sorry bro. i have seen them live 5 times starting with undertow and it all rocks.

now you wanna talk sell out or mellow out, i have seen metallica 4 times starting with and justice for all and the difference is huge. i never was lucky enough to see them back during ride or master.