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07-09-2008, 09:39 AM
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| If you ran Nascar...... What changes would you make?
To start I would shorten the races and run more Saturday night races to allow people to travel home on Sunday and be at work on Monday. If it did rain, then Sunday would be a better make up day than Monday when we're all working, (well some of us  ). I would not shorten the Daytona 500 of course. |
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07-09-2008, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 615 Vol What changes would you make?
To start I would shorten the races and run more Saturday night races to allow people to travel home on Sunday and be at work on Monday. If it did rain, then Sunday would be a better make up day than Monday when we're all working, (well some of us  ). I would not shorten the Daytona 500 of course. | shorten races??? why? that's no fun. |
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07-09-2008, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Vol Mania 21 shorten races??? why? that's no fun. | They last too long IMO, most people sleep through the middle of the race. I would at least start them a little earlier, they spend half the day counting down to green now. |
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07-09-2008, 10:09 AM
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| I'm already on record in an older thread in favor of shorter races. I could see keeping Daytona, Indy, Talladega and Charlotte with one long race. Otherwise I think they should be set where the race would be over in 2 to 2-1/2 hours. The racing would be more intense from green to checkered, and would cut expenses for teams and have the PR value of saving gasoline. |
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07-09-2008, 10:15 AM
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| | Give me 3 more!!! | 1.Get rid of the BS "Lucky Dog" rule
2.Get rid of the BS "debris cautions"
3.Allow unlimited testing
4.Put a Road Course in the Chase
5.Drop a race date from California and New Hampshire. Add another road course (internationally) add another one.
6.Keep the 500 mile race at Pocono. I love the track and it's a unique track that I would love to drive on.
7.Do away with the top 35 rule. Only the top 15 should be locked into the field. The rest must qualify in.
8.Rearrange off weeks leaving an off week between races 26 and 27. Restructure the track placement during the chase.
9.Change TV contracts
10.Drop COT plans for the Nationwide series.
11.Stop limiting teams from 4 teams. It's inevitable, within the next 5 years they'll be ten 4 car teams with a couple of underdog teams running. There's nothing you can do to stop that, may as well speed the process up.
12.Allow as much R&D for the teams as they need. Hard work should be rewarded.
Of course none of this would be true because I would be in jail for murdering Brian France years ago. |
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07-09-2008, 10:18 AM
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| | Technical Difficulties | I'd encourage more fistacuffs. |
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07-09-2008, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 1.Get rid of the BS "Lucky Dog" rule
2.Get rid of the BS "debris cautions"
3.Allow unlimited testing
4.Put a Road Course in the Chase
5.Drop a race date from California and New Hampshire. Add another road course (internationally) add another one.
6.Keep the 500 mile race at Pocono. I love the track and it's a unique track that I would love to drive on.
7.Do away with the top 35 rule. Only the top 15 should be locked into the field. The rest must qualify in.
8.Rearrange off weeks leaving an off week between races 26 and 27. Restructure the track placement during the chase.
9.Change TV contracts
10.Drop COT plans for the Nationwide series.
11.Stop limiting teams from 4 teams. It's inevitable, within the next 5 years they'll be ten 4 car teams with a couple of underdog teams running. There's nothing you can do to stop that, may as well speed the process up.
12.Allow as much R&D for the teams as they need. Hard work should be rewarded.
Of course none of this would be true because I would be in jail for murdering Brian France years ago. | Road courses are so boring, when it's road course wk i usually don't even turn on the race. adding another road course would be the worst thing possible. Pocono is another boring race |
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07-09-2008, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Vol Mania 21 Road courses are so boring, when it's road course wk i usually don't even turn on the race. adding another road course would be the worst thing possible. Pocono is another boring race | I love Pocono. It's a long race and I just love to see the field get strung out and watch guys work through the field. I don't like nor dislike road courses(I don't mind strategy, but every 10 seconds fuel mileage gets mentioned) but if they're going to be on the schedule they may as well be during the playoffs. |
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07-09-2008, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 1.Get rid of the BS "Lucky Dog" rule
2.Get rid of the BS "debris cautions"
3.Allow unlimited testing
4.Put a Road Course in the Chase
5.Drop a race date from California and New Hampshire. Add another road course (internationally) add another one.
6.Keep the 500 mile race at Pocono. I love the track and it's a unique track that I would love to drive on.
7.Do away with the top 35 rule. Only the top 15 should be locked into the field. The rest must qualify in.
8.Rearrange off weeks leaving an off week between races 26 and 27. Restructure the track placement during the chase.
9.Change TV contracts
10.Drop COT plans for the Nationwide series.
11.Stop limiting teams from 4 teams. It's inevitable, within the next 5 years they'll be ten 4 car teams with a couple of underdog teams running. There's nothing you can do to stop that, may as well speed the process up.
12.Allow as much R&D for the teams as they need. Hard work should be rewarded.
Of course none of this would be true because I would be in jail for murdering Brian France years ago. | 1. At 1st I thought that way, but it has grown on me.
3. I would tend to eliminate all testing, more even playing field.
4. Have already advocated that.
5. Agree with Cal., but Nascar doesn't own NH. I would add road course at Mid-Ohio, Road America, or Laguna Seca. Nascar doesn't need to go International.
6. I like Pocono too, but races are too long.
7. I would change it to either 25, or 0.
8. Not sure what you have in mind.
10. To keep the series a viable stepping stone into Cup the cars need to be more alike.
11. I would limit them to three teams, no more than four. I don't want to see fewer teams. It's only inevitable if you allow it to happen.
12. See no problem with that.
Brian France will probably do himself in in due time. |
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07-09-2008, 10:44 AM
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| | Give me 3 more!!! | Quote:
Originally Posted by rbroyles 1. At 1st I thought that way, but it has grown on me.
3. I would tend to eliminate all testing, more even playing field.
4. Have already advocated that.
5. Agree with Cal., but Nascar doesn't own NH. I would add road course at Mid-Ohio, Road America, or Laguna Seca. Nascar doesn't need to go International.
6. I like Pocono too, but races are too long.
7. I would change it to either 25, or 0.
8. Not sure what you have in mind.
10. To keep the series a viable stepping stone into Cup the cars need to be more alike.
11. I would limit them to three teams, no more than four. I don't want to see fewer teams. It's only inevitable if you allow it to happen.
12. See no problem with that.
Brian France will probably do himself in in due time. | 7.I meant to change my original. 20-25 is more of the range I was thinking
8.The guys need an off week before start of the chase. Not mention in case something happens and a race gets cancelled. Don't forget the near Michigan disaster last year
10.The Nationwide has already been killed by Cup drivers. The only thing a COT would do would force the remaining cup non-affiliated teams to come on up to Cup. I bet running the full season in cup and making 10 races and finishing mid 30's in the races you made would make more than running a solid season in the Nationwide. If the NWide goes to Cup, Braun racing and JR Motorsports both are moving up. The new development series is the truck series. I like what Scott Speed, Erik Darnell, Colin Braun, etc. are going. They can learn from a lot of veterans there and plus from what I hear the Trucks drive the closest to what the COT drives like. |
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07-09-2008, 11:05 AM
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| that's because the COT is based off the truck design. |
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07-09-2008, 11:28 AM
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| | Matthew 6:2 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Knoxville
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFan07 1.Get rid of the BS "Lucky Dog" rule
2.Get rid of the BS "debris cautions"
3.Allow unlimited testing
4.Put a Road Course in the Chase
5.Drop a race date from California and New Hampshire. Add another road course (internationally) add another one.
6.Keep the 500 mile race at Pocono. I love the track and it's a unique track that I would love to drive on.
7.Do away with the top 35 rule. Only the top 15 should be locked into the field. The rest must qualify in.
8.Rearrange off weeks leaving an off week between races 26 and 27. Restructure the track placement during the chase.
9.Change TV contracts
10.Drop COT plans for the Nationwide series.
11.Stop limiting teams from 4 teams. It's inevitable, within the next 5 years they'll be ten 4 car teams with a couple of underdog teams running. There's nothing you can do to stop that, may as well speed the process up.
12.Allow as much R&D for the teams as they need. Hard work should be rewarded.
Of course none of this would be true because I would be in jail for murdering Brian France years ago. | Quote:
Originally Posted by rbroyles 1. At 1st I thought that way, but it has grown on me.
3. I would tend to eliminate all testing, more even playing field.
4. Have already advocated that.
5. Agree with Cal., but Nascar doesn't own NH. I would add road course at Mid-Ohio, Road America, or Laguna Seca. Nascar doesn't need to go International.
6. I like Pocono too, but races are too long.
7. I would change it to either 25, or 0.
8. Not sure what you have in mind.
10. To keep the series a viable stepping stone into Cup the cars need to be more alike.
11. I would limit them to three teams, no more than four. I don't want to see fewer teams. It's only inevitable if you allow it to happen.
12. See no problem with that.
Brian France will probably do himself in in due time. | 1. Lucky Dog rule is okay but the name of it in incredibly stupid. I like it but i think you should only be allowed to get it once. Reutimann got the Lucky Dog 5 times last weekend. absurd.
2. the debris cautions have gotten much better. i don't care if there is one as long as we can see the debris.
3. unlimited testing will kill the small teams. there should be more but it should be limited to one car, per team, per test. it brings in the element of sharing and it's fair to the small team.
4. road course in the Chase is fine.
5. lose a race in New Hamshire, the snoozefest...err Pocono, and California. give one date to Vegas, another to Nashville, and another to Iowa Speedway.
6. one Pocono race, 400 miles. honestly, if both dates were gone nobody would care after the first year.
7. fastest 43 cars race. the top 35 rule is asinine and ruins the point of qualifying.
8. moving the early off date to the week before the Chase is fine. the Chase schedule is fine with the exception that it needs a road course. nobody wants to choose between Bristol or Tennessee/Va Tech football games. Bristol is just an example. its date right now is perfect.
9. there's no thing wrong with the TV contracts, unless they want to lose FOX, which is fine with me.
10. the Busch cars definitely need to have some resemblance to Cup cars.
11. 3 teams is perfect. 4 is too many. 5 or more is ridiculous.
12. no problem here either. |
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07-10-2008, 09:19 PM
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| | Fire Hart ! | I would give back to Darlington The
Southern 500 on Labor Day weekend |
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07-10-2008, 09:32 PM
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| | PirateVol Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, TX
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| 1. Reconfigure the Chase races. I'm sorry, but New Hampshire does not need a date in the Chase. I like the idea of a road course in the Chase just to add a track of every type in there.
2. Give one of New Hampshire's races to Kentucky, send the Labor Day race back to Darlington leaving California with one race. Take one race away from Pocono and send that race to Iowa Speedway.
3. Make winning a race worth more than 10 bonus points in the Chase and make winning a race in the Chase worth more than just a max. of 10 points ahead of 2nd.
4. Make the Chase the Top 10 again.
5. Make ticket prices cheaper at the races so the avg. Joe can afford to go to the races. If it's really all about the fans, then prove it.
6. Finally, most importantly, find a way to make the old car safer and scrap this failure of an idea called the COT. |
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