breaking news jeff gordon

[tonyvolsfan05]

Nascar has found that jeff was using a illegal antifreeze
today.who else is sick of hendrick

[Hoosier_Vol]

HMS is flat out kicking everyone's a$$!

[TennesseeFan07]

There time will end, Roush did something similar 2 years ago.

[tidwell]

The sad thing is, HMS hasn't had the best car at a single CoT race yet. They haven't been garbage obviously, they've been right there in the top five consistently. As long as other teams are willing to give them away, HMS will gladly take them.

[doozer]

i liked Hamlin's comments after the race. he was pissed.

i also like what Penske has going on the Cup side as well. they're really picking up some steam.

[tidwell]

He should be upset. That's the third CoT race he's led an obscene number of laps only to lose in the end.

[XtennesseeX]

Yea, if it wasn't for that one pit stop then he would have probably ran away with the race.

It sucks though, I would have rather seen him win then Gordon or Johnson.

[kkep48]

Originally Posted by tidwell

The sad thing is, HMS hasn't had the best car at a single CoT race yet. They haven't been garbage obviously, they've been right there in the top five consistently. As long as other teams are willing to give them away, HMS will gladly take them.

that's not true, at Martinsville I think it was clear both Johnson and Gordon were the best cars.

[doozer]

Originally Posted by kkep48

that's not true, at Martinsville I think it was clear both Johnson and Gordon were the best cars.

maybe, but they didn't lead the most laps.

[SmokeyVol]

I knew it!!

[tidwell]

Originally Posted by kkep48

that's not true, at Martinsville I think it was clear both Johnson and Gordon were the best cars.

I was going to exclude that race since that was their best performance, but they didn't by any means dominate the race. I know the 8, 11, and 20 all spent a considerable amount of time in the lead as well as the 24 and 48. JJ took the lead through pit strategy and held off a faster 24 car at the end, as we know.

[kkep48]

ok well if you're going to say they haven't been dominant in a single race don't exclude races. Gordon led the most laps at Richmond, won the pole and Johnson won the race, with Kyle Busch right there too. I think it's unfair to say they haven't been dominant in any race.

[tidwell]

Well, they haven't been.

They have however dominated the last lap of the CoT races, and that's what matters most in the end.

However if you look at the whole races, it's not like they've been swapping the lead amongst themselves throughout the race. They've been there in the top five and even leading a bit and executed in the end.

[doozer]

kind of off the subject, but the CoT is kinda growing on me.

[kkep48]

Originally Posted by doozer

kind of off the subject, but the CoT is kinda growing on me.

i'm starting to like it too. the car actually looks more like a race car... with the old car, the bodies are all twisted and the car looks very unsymmetrical, with this car, the car looks symmetrical and the races aren't that bad. it's not like the racing with the old cars were great, and the finishes to these races have been pretty good. sure, the car looks dumb with that wing on it but, that will grow on me.