Dale Jr. and Jimmie Johnson get the screw job

[checkerboard_charly]

Well folks NASCAR has done it again. A fool named Brian Vickers wrecks the two best cars on the track to win on the last lap. And they praise him for it.


I will not watch NASCAR for the rest of the year. Thanks for pushing away the real fans of the sport. Make that money and live a good life.


NASCAR.

[#10_Ainge_#10]

Vickers is the biggest idiot out there in NASCAR he really screwed Dale Jr. today....That one really hurt.....Jr. had the better car than Johnson all day and Vickers couldn't just take a good 3rd place finish....Pardon my french, but that really PISSED me off

[TigersTalons]

Vickers saying the 8 pushed down on JJ and JJ jerked to get away?!?!?! I beLIEve him !!!

[TigersTalons]

Maybe Vickers is French and you can point over that way!!

[tidwell]

Vickers has the same problem that Johnson used to have on the plate tracks. He simply has too good of a car to know what to do with it. Johnson used to wreck people left and right, and now its Vickers' turn.

Jr. would've finished 3rd anyway, but that was ridiculous by Vickers. Just STAY BEHIND Johnson, you did it for the last 30 laps. But again, I won't hold it against him, he's just in too good of a car than he knows what to do with.

[TigersTalons]

The commentator did bring up"How Loyal" Vickers would be since he is leaving the team at years end was looking for his first win and after the race stating he has been excluded from team meeting for some time.

[tidwell]

What they failed to mention however is that Vickers is a talentless hack, having no control over the car when all he had to do was stay on Johnson's bumper wherever he went on the track. He didn't seem to have much of a problem doing it the previous 187 laps.

[TigersTalons]

I agree and remeber when JJ was wreckless maybe the arrogance of JG and JJ are rubbing off on him.

[dan4vols]

I had JJ picked to win, but what comes around goes around....you reap what you sow. Now JJ is paying up for his past recklessness. I feel bad for Jr, he deserved the checkered flag I think. The Karma bug bit JJ in the right rear today.

[tidwell]

I was prepared to concede the win for Jr., they had a heckuva run on him and were gonna go around him unless he would've just ran them in the grass, as Johnson or Vickers probably would've done.

True about Johnson. I think he even had something to do with that semi-big wreck earlier in the race. Looked like he was the one that jacked Edwards sideways down into Mears, but it also looked like they were all checking up for whatever reason. I just like to blame Johnson for it, but he definitely got taken out, by a teammate no less.

[DownNDirty]

Might I say in the Top 5 picks I was the only one to pick a Vickers win, and I THINK the only one to even have him in the top 5. I don't care for him one way or another but I knew he'd have a heck of a car today.

It was a racing deal IMO. I don't think he hooked JJ on purpose. I really think he was trying to cut across JJ's rear end with a super bump down the backstretch to send them both around Earnhardt and him take his shot at Johnson coming down to the line.

Anyone on here know just how crappy HMS treats Vickers? They have ever since the plane crash that took his best friend, Ricky Hendrick. I was at the Bristol night race last year and Jeff Gordon nailed Vickers and punted him out of the way and into the wall. I flipped to JG's channel and going down into the next turn Vickers slammed him back and passed him. JG "sent word" to Vickers that he's the "4th car" in the Hendrick organization and JG could see he's fired the next week if he pulled that crap again. Now they won't let Vickers in on team meetings, won't let him tell the crew what adjustments to make during the race, he's basically just driving what they give him and he stuck it straight up HMS's rear end's today - inadvertantly. He won't lose any sleep over it though - well at least not for taking out JJ. I half expected him to thank Toyota for giving him a chance next year instead of thanking Hendrick - but he done the PC thing and did thank Hendrick.

I think it also spoke VOLUMES that they can interview Dale Jr and he congratulate Vickers and say "man, that's racin" and do it with a smile. Then, they interview JJ and he's whining and crying and babbling and all this junk not remembering if not for Vickers pushing him around at Daytona and Talladega he very may well not have won either race this season. I completely understand the Junior and JJ fans being upset at the outcome - and I like Dale Jr. But, I think alot of people need to remember that this IS NASCAR and it used to be rubbing was racing. Donnie and Cale wiped each other out on the last lap of the Daytona 500 and it goes down as the greatest finish ever and everyone was saying how great that was and that "rubbin is racin." This new generation of NASCAR fan just don't understand that I'm afraid. I thought, good LORD, I'm glad that Junior and JJ didn't come back up across the track or flip and they were both ok but I was thinking WHAT A FINISH. I hate it for Vickers that his first win had to come at such controversey but I'm glad to see him get a win with the way they treat him at HMS. There have been several times over the past few years he's had the winning car at tracks and something breaks or he blows up because he's the Hendrick R&D dummy. At least he got something out of his tenure there.

[TennFan]

If that accident hadn't happened I would have had a 1st, 2nd and 5th place in the NASCAR pick'ems! Darn Brian Vickers! Would someone please slap him in the face. Thanks. He's not even been welcomed in the meetings for Hendrick MotorSports since he said he was swithching teams next season.

[tidwell]

Vickers gets treated like crap, and coincidentally, fired from HMS because he has zero talent. HMS is the best team out there. Every one of their drivers are competitive and win races, except for Vickers. He has done nothing but underwhelm and underperform since he's sat foot into the Cup Series in 2004. It's a good thing he thanked Rick's son for being his buddy and hand-picking him for the HMS Busch car back in 2003. If not for that, he'd be where he belongs, scrounging around for a ride in the regional series' of NASCAR.

The only places he's been competitive at this year has been the plate tracks, where it's all car and you just have to point it in the right direction. He proved today that he can't even do that without taking people out. Johnson used to be the same way, but as noted by Tony Eury Jr., he's matured a lot, as far as plate racing goes anyway, and has turned that into two plate wins this year.

Jr. is a classy guy, I expected him to get out of the car and congratulate Vickers and just call it a racing deal.

[USAF_Vol]

Originally Posted by tidwell

Vickers gets treated like crap, and coincidentally, fired from HMS because he has zero talent. HMS is the best team out there. Every one of their drivers are competitive and win races, except for Vickers. He has done nothing but underwhelm and underperform since he's sat foot into the Cup Series in 2004. It's a good thing he thanked Rick's son for being his buddy and hand-picking him for the HMS Busch car back in 2003. If not for that, he'd be where he belongs, scrounging around for a ride in the regional series' of NASCAR.

The only places he's been competitive at this year has been the plate tracks, where it's all car and you just have to point it in the right direction. He proved today that he can't even do that without taking people out. Johnson used to be the same way, but as noted by Tony Eury Jr., he's matured a lot, as far as plate racing goes anyway, and has turned that into two plate wins this year.

Jr. is a classy guy, I expected him to get out of the car and congratulate Vickers and just call it a racing deal.

Tell us how you really feel.

On another note....Bobby finished 10th

[tidwell]

I meant to add on that I feel Truex is no better than Vickers and is where he is for the same reason as Vickers, so it's not a "I hate anything Hendrick" thing.

Although I do hate anything Hendrick.