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Old 01-10-2012, 02:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Looks like Joe Pa, who won runner-up.
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Old 01-10-2012, 02:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I cannot believe no one has included A.J. Foyt. He won in everything he drove, the only reason he didn't win in F1 is he didn't drive in it. Many rank him above Andretti. Also, no one has listed Dan Gurney, won in F1, LeMans, Sebring, NASCAR, and Trans-Am and Can-Am. Another to consider is Mark Donahue, won Indy 500, NASCAR, Trans-Am, Can-Am, competed in F1.

I believe Stirling Moss should be higher on all lists.
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Old 01-10-2012, 02:45 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Oh. The numbers are not important. I just put them there so I knew I had 20. I don't know why no Phil Hill, I just always thought a lot more of Andretti when it came to American drivers.

I do rank Prost higher than Senna though. A fair bit higher.
If you are looking only at driving ability, I strongly disagree.
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If you are looking only at driving ability, I strongly disagree.
No, all around racecraft. Senna was faster and might have been more talented, Prost played the game smart, IMO.

Yeah, I should have included Dan Gurney and AJ. But I wanted to get in a few of my personal favorites.
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Hey,

just a thread to debate the top drivers in any series of all time... So get your paper and pen out because I am sure it's going to become a list-athon!!!!!!!!

Top 20 drivers of all time in no order, my version:

Henri Pescarolo,
Fangio,
Senna,
Prost,
Schumacher,
Mansell,
Tom Kristensen,
Frank Beila,
Hans Stuck,
Jim Clarke,
Phil Hill,
Richard Petty,
Graham Hill,
Ron Fellows,
Gerald Larousse,
Jacky Ickx,
Alberto Ascari,
Derek Bell,
Mario Andretti,
Emanuele Pirro.

If I had to choose number one of all time it would have to be Kristensen because he has achieved a ridiculous amount in his time... Every time I see him race he never ceases to amaze me. In his field I would pick him over anyone...

This list about if every driver ever was in equal equpiment who would be in the top 20, it's who has been the best in their particular field of racing.

Any agreements/disagreements???

Let the games, debates and listing begin!!!!!!

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Interesting and diverse list, I would kick out Ron Fellows, there are many above him. David Pearson was a better driver than Petty. No Stirling Moss??? You do mean Hans Stucke the senior? What about Sir Jack?
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Rb, what do you think of my list?
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Interesting and diverse list, I would kick out Ron Fellows, there are many above him. David Pearson was a better driver than Petty. No Stirling Moss??? You do mean Hans Stucke the senior? What about Sir Jack?
I see where you are coming from on Ron, but to me, some of his performances in the early days of the c5r were master class.... Yes I mean Hans senior. Jack Stewart or Brabham?
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I see Makinen but no Sebastien Loeb? McRae was a personal hero as well.

WRC happens to be my favorite series.
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I see Makinen but no Sebastien Loeb? McRae was a personal hero as well.

WRC happens to be my favorite series.
Until it collapses in a few weeks.....
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Until it collapses in a few weeks.....
You don't think they can pull something out of their backside soon?

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You don't think they can pull something out of their backside soon?

PS, fk'n Russians.
Sadly not, I hope i am wrong though... I really do.
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Say what, comrade?
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I see where you are coming from on Ron, but to me, some of his performances in the early days of the c5r were master class.... Yes I mean Hans senior. Jack Stewart or Brabham?
Sir Jack always meant Brabham. Stewart is always Jackie or "The Wee Scott".
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Rb, what do you think of my list?
I agree with most of it, particulary like including Tommi Makinen as Rally drivers are among the most skilled IMO. Also like having Giles Villeneuve, very talented, would have accomplished so much more. I got to know him and his brother Jacques when they raced snowmobiles for Rupp when I worked there in the early '70s. He had tremendous car control. I remember working the Carousel at Mid-Ohio when he was driving F Atlantic. He would kick the rear end out and drift the entire corner, where normally a car would understeer. Only he was doing it, and he won by a wide margin.
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