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07-29-2009, 01:58 PM
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| | " The Truth " Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Newport, Tn
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| Phillies trade for Cliff Lee! Phillies get: Cliff Lee & Ben Francisco
Indians get: Jason Knapp, Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald, & Lou Marson |
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07-29-2009, 02:06 PM
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| The Phillies just locked up the division title, great move for them. I think this most likely makes them the team to beat in September. It'll be interesting to see what the Dodgers do to respond. |
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07-29-2009, 02:18 PM
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| Adding Cliff Lee makes them the team to beat in the NL. |
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07-29-2009, 02:20 PM
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| Solid work by the Phills. |
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07-29-2009, 02:27 PM
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| Damn.
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07-29-2009, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 Some guys are really good pitching for lousy teams when there's no pressure. Check out Lee's numbers the last season Cleveland was in contention. Posted via VolNation Mobile | Would you say the same thing about Halladay?
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07-29-2009, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by crusse10 Would you say the same thing about Halladay? | If ,given the opportunity, Halladay had ever pitched so horribly that it cost his team a place in the postseason, yes. |
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07-29-2009, 03:08 PM
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| Ohhhhhhhh. I misread your initial statement.
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07-29-2009, 03:22 PM
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| Top-shelf pitchers typically don't have their first good season at age 29. Lee's good, but if this is what the Phillies are going to have to settle for instead of Roy Halladay, then I'd say they just struck out. |
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07-29-2009, 03:25 PM
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| Don't forget the name Jason Knapp! |
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07-29-2009, 03:34 PM
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| | What up Brah Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Birmingham,Al
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| Knapp is a beast |
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07-29-2009, 03:44 PM
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| Moving from the AL to the NL will make him look better than people think.
It's just not as good of a league. |
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07-29-2009, 03:55 PM
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| Cliff Lee isn't a Roy Haladay any means but the Phills didn't give up a lot either.
Knapp is good but young, Carrasco is probably a #3, and Marson and Donald are all glove and no stick going forward. |
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07-29-2009, 04:00 PM
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| | Totes McGoates Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Originally Posted by UTLCA Moving from the AL to the NL will make him look better than people think.
It's just not as good of a league. | I think the exact opposite. He is not going to be pitching against the AL central anymore. NL east is alot better than the AL central. He is a rollercoaster of a pitcher
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