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07-16-2009, 11:49 AM
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| I guess he just throws fastballs every single pitch and has a 1.66 ERA and a .217 batting average against.
He has breaking stuff.
Only players ranked ahead of him on that list... Price (one scout said that was debatable, Price is just older), Wieters, Heyward, Porcello, Maybin
"Bumgarner looks like he's going to be something special. Not only does he throw 94-96 with ease, he's got ridiculously good command for his age. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him come up and have the type of success Tim Lincecum did when he was brought up. Think Clayton Kershaw, but with more command, and that's what you have in Bumgarner." | 
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07-22-2009, 05:57 PM
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| | Murkin
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Originally Posted by Dbake005  I guess he just throws fastballs every single pitch and has a 1.66 ERA and a .217 batting average against.
He has breaking stuff.
Only players ranked ahead of him on that list... Price (one scout said that was debatable, Price is just older), Wieters, Heyward, Porcello, Maybin
"Bumgarner looks like he's going to be something special. Not only does he throw 94-96 with ease, he's got ridiculously good command for his age. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him come up and have the type of success Tim Lincecum did when he was brought up. Think Clayton Kershaw, but with more command, and that's what you have in Bumgarner." | His breaking ball is practically the same as it was in high school according to scouts that have seen him. Right now his fastball is his only pitch better than average. | 
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07-22-2009, 06:04 PM
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| | VN GURU
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA His breaking ball is practically the same as it was in high school according to scouts that have seen him. Right now his fastball is his only pitch better than average. | You can have an average breaking ball and a plus fastball, with plus plus command and be a very successful pitcher in the majors. | |
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07-22-2009, 06:11 PM
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| | Murkin
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| sure you can but Bum doesn't even have average off-speed stuff | |
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07-22-2009, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA sure you can but Bum doesn't even have average off-speed stuff | Disagree. He has below average movement on his curve, but his off speed stuff is very deceptive. All his pitches come from the same arm slot and his curve and his change look exactly the same until the last couple feet. Throw in the fact that he can put the ball any spot in the zone and you have at least an average off speed stuff. Having the same arm speed and release point for all your pitches is a huge advantage. | |
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07-22-2009, 07:18 PM
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| I agree... not to mention the 95 mph heater spotted up wherever he wants it. and this year's situation could be like Price was last year. | |
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07-23-2009, 09:09 AM
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| | Murkin
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| I would be worried about Bum if i were a Giants fan. His K% has dropped significantly with each promotion, while his BABIP has gotten lower. | |
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07-23-2009, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA I would be worried about Bum if i were a Giants fan. His K% has dropped significantly with each promotion, while his BABIP has gotten lower. | He is also 19... in AA... second youngest pitcher in the league... and has an ERA in the 1.5s... and has a BA against under .200... and a whip under 1.00... If I were a Giants fan, I'd be ecstatic with his development. | |
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07-26-2009, 01:45 AM
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| thank you, thank you | |
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07-26-2009, 01:52 PM
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| | Murkin
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| his stats have been good but name 5 starting pitchers in the majors who can live in the majors with only a 92 MPH FB? | |
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07-26-2009, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA his stats have been good but name 5 starting pitchers in the majors who can live in the majors with only a 92 MPH FB? | I'll bet half the starters in MLB top out around 90-92 mph. | |
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07-26-2009, 02:02 PM
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| | Murkin
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| i meaning to say that the 92 mph FB is his only decent pitch | |
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07-26-2009, 02:09 PM
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| | Cheap Labor
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA i meaning to say that the 92 mph FB is his only decent pitch | Ahh . . . I see what you are saying.
That's probably true for the most part unless you start talking about the sinker guys. | |
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07-26-2009, 02:16 PM
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| | Murkin
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| If he develops his curve or whatever his breaking pitch is then the sky's the limit for him. | |
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07-26-2009, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA If he doesn't get hurt then the sky's the limit for him. | fyp | |
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