Top 5 hitters not on roids?

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by Business

I will say this. Jones and Schmidt would be a deadly #3 and #4. They both are pretty much epitome of those spots in the lineup.

that's definitely true. Although I'd probably want Manny and Pujols.

[7thgroupvolfan]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

he has a measly .303 BA and I don't think he ever even hit 20 jacks. How does he compare with the others?

You know his lifetime Avg....now tell how many hits he had in his career? And then do the comparision

[Business]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

that's definitely true. Although I'd probably want Manny and Pujols.

Well, I mean I really like white American born third basemen for some reason, so that's my guys.

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by 7thgroupvolfan

You know his lifetime Avg....now tell how many hits he had in his career? And then do the comparision

You just said longevity was BS

[7thgroupvolfan]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

You just said longevity was BS

Longevity is part of the equation that makes a baseball player great.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

brett was barely a .300 hitter and never hit over 30 jimmy jacks.

schmidt didn't have the avg, but his power numbers were clearly better. I know you don't care for singles hitters, but Gwynn has a .338 BA. Can't ignore that. Ichiro's is right around .330.

Check out Brett's slugging
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[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by 7thgroupvolfan

Longevity is part of the equation that makes a baseball player great.

why? By your assumptions, Cal Ripken is the greatest player ever. Thinking that because someone got to play injury and war free for a long time makes them great is nothing short of absurd.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by 7thgroupvolfan

Longevity is part of the equation that makes a baseball player great.

Then Koufax and Sayers were also rans.
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[7thgroupvolfan]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

why? By your assumptions, Cal Ripken is the greatest player ever. Thinking that because someone got to play injury and war free for a long time makes them great is nothing short of absurd.

Everybody has a opinion...don't get your panties in a bunch.

[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by 7thgroupvolfan

Everybody has a opinion...don't get your panties in a bunch.

i'd much rather you somehow prove how longevity matters more than numbers instead of backsliding out of it.

[7thgroupvolfan]

Originally Posted by volfanbill

i'd much rather you somehow prove how longevity matters more than numbers instead of backsliding out of it.

Its PART of the equation.....just thinking ichiro's a better hitter than Pete Rose sounds absurd IMO.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by 7thgroupvolfan

Its PART of the equation.....just thinking ichiro's a better hitter than Pete Rose sounds absurd IMO.

I think your answer there lies in the fact that almost every manager in history would leadiff with Ichiro over Rose.
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[volfanbill]

Originally Posted by 7thgroupvolfan

Its PART of the equation.....just thinking ichiro's a better hitter than Pete Rose sounds absurd IMO.

i'll take a lifetime .333 BA everyday over someone who could only muster up anything above that 3 times in 24 seasons. If Rose had the ability to hit HRs, you might have a case, but he kept those numbers in the teens.

[Business]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

I think your answer there lies in the fact that almost every manager in history would leadiff with Ichiro over Rose.
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Also if Ichiro played in the MLB since he was 22, or younger, he'd be breathing down Rose's neck if he was able to play that long.

[615 Vol]

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