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Originally Posted by TXVOL07  I'd argue that. His numbers are as solid as some of the others mentioned. He just wasnt the "slugger" that they were. There is nothing wrong with hitting for average, and certainly nothing wrong with his OBP as a lead off hitter. | Biggio's lifetime average was around .280 I believe. Posted via VolNation Mobile | 
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02-24-2009, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLinthaATL Hornsby is incredibly underrated.
I am convinced Ichiro could hit 30 bombs a year if he wanted too. | Hornsby was fabulous, but didn't have the all around stick that Gehrig did, IMO.
Ichiro swinging at 30 bombs would watch his average fall to about 275. That whole beating out singles things just doesn't work for me in an all time great conversation. By that standard, Carew should be on all lists. | |
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02-24-2009, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol Hornsby was fabulous, but didn't have the all around stick that Gehrig did, IMO.
Ichiro swinging at 30 bombs would watch his average fall to about 275. That whole beating out singles things just doesn't work for me in an all time great conversation. By that standard, Carew should be on all lists. | What about Ty Cobb? At 41 he hit .357.
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02-24-2009, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JZVOL What about Ty Cobb? At 41 he hit .357. | you're second quote on Cobb. If anyone ever cheated, it was Ty Cobb. It may not have been on roids, but no way was the Peach clean. | 
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Originally Posted by volfanbill you're second quote on Cobb. If anyone ever cheated, it was Ty Cobb. It may not have been on roids, but no way was the Peach clean. | He was a dirty player but how did he cheat at hitting? | |
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02-24-2009, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Fine Vol Babe Ruth was clean I hope! | other than booze | |
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02-24-2009, 08:22 PM
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02-24-2009, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JZVOL He was a dirty player but how did he cheat at hitting? | He had umps scared to call strikes on him for one thing Posted via VolNation Mobile | |
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| I think Hank Aaron and Chipper Jones have to be in the mix somewhere.
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol Ichiro swinging at 30 bombs would watch his average fall to about 275. That whole beating out singles things just doesn't work for me in an all time great conversation. By that standard, Carew should be on all lists. | I don't know. Ichiro is amazing. What he has done since coming over has been remarkable and probably won't ever be done again. Probably doesn't belong in the top 5 but I'll put him in the top 20 no doubt. | |
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02-25-2009, 07:13 AM
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02-25-2009, 07:33 AM
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| When names like Williams, Ruth, Hornsby, Musial, Gehrig, Cobb, etc get brought up, people just like foolish bringing up Chipper. He's been good don't get me wrong but nothing compared to the others mentioned. | |
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02-25-2009, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by volfanbill When names like Williams, Ruth, Hornsby, Musial, Gehrig, Cobb, etc get brought up, people just like foolish bringing up Chipper. He's been good don't get me wrong but nothing compared to the others mentioned. | Agreed. He also had one very explosive season that looks like a bit of an anomoly. Posted via VolNation Mobile | |
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02-25-2009, 07:42 AM
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| How about Manny? I'll assume that he's clean. He's one of the top 3 RH hitters to ever put on a uniform. | |
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02-25-2009, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol Agreed. He also had one very explosive season that looks like a bit of an anomoly.
Posted via VolNation Mobile | i don't think I've seen Jimmie Foxx on this list and I'd take Hang Greenberg over Chipper
My top five would likely be:
Williams
Ruth
DiMaggio
Hornsby
Gehrig
Hornsby batted over .400 3 different times. That's impressive. I'd like to add Joe Jackson, but he didn't have the slugging %, nor the length of time.
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