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06-10-2008, 01:10 PM
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| At their peak who was the more dominant player ESPN has a pole up about this so I figured I would see what the Nation thinks.
Griffey Jr or Barroid.
Griffey Jr. is my favorite baseball player ever, he has got the smoothest swing I have ever saw, and back in his prime he was a great CF.
Bonds has never been a great fielder IMO, but its kind of hard to argue against someone that had 72 HRs in a season so I got to say he was more dominant. |
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06-10-2008, 01:17 PM
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| if Griffey had been able to stay healthy, we'd be talking about him approaching Barry instead of talking about him hitting number 600. |
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06-10-2008, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerT83 ESPN has a pole up about this so I figured I would see what the Nation thinks.
Griffey Jr or Barroid.
Griffey Jr. is my favorite baseball player ever, he has got the smoothest swing I have ever saw, and back in his prime he was a great CF.
Bonds has never been a great fielder IMO, but its kind of hard to argue against someone that had 72 HRs in a season so I got to say he was more dominant. | Bonds was a very good fielder in his prime.
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06-10-2008, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerT83 ESPN has a pole up about this so I figured I would see what the Nation thinks.
Griffey Jr or Barroid.
Griffey Jr. is my favorite baseball player ever, he has got the smoothest swing I have ever saw, and back in his prime he was a great CF.
Bonds has never been a great fielder IMO, but its kind of hard to argue against someone that had 72 HRs in a season so I got to say he was more dominant. | 72 * He was roided up in 2001 no doubt!
You have never heard anything about Griffey doing anything like that, not even a peep I don't believe. I'll take the guy that did it naturally. You can have Barry and his size 23 dome... |
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06-10-2008, 01:21 PM
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| I will go with Jr. If it wasn't for all those injuries he would be getting ready to break the HR record.
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06-10-2008, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA I will go with Jr. If it wasn't for all those injuries he would be getting ready to break the HR record. | Very hard to speculate but it would have been fun to watch! |
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06-10-2008, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerT83 Bonds has never been a great fielder IMO. | His shelf full of Gold Gloves say otherwise. |
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06-10-2008, 06:28 PM
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| Bonds was a very good fielder in his prime, he was awesome before he got on the juice.
I'll take a 1990 roidless Barry over a 1990 Griffey
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06-10-2008, 07:33 PM
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| It all depends on your definition of "prime". The player Bonds was becoming as a Pirate before he beefed up (and I'm not going to speculate what he did) was a 5 tool player. He could hit, hit for power, run, had a good (I won't say great) arm, and was a very good fielder. After beefing up he lost a lot of speed and seemed to lose his touch in the OF. |
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06-10-2008, 07:37 PM
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| I will also add that I agree Jr would be going for the HR record (or might already have it) if he not been injured so often. However, I hate "if" statements. If my aunt had ba***, she'd be my uncle. Personally I'd take Jr's Mariner days over Bonds. |
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06-10-2008, 08:13 PM
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| 'roids or no, Barries 3 year run at the plate was the best ever. You wanna talk about dominant, his OPS was like 1.4 at some points. That's obscene.
I can't stand Bonds, but he surpassed the Babe's marks for season slugging, all while being pitched around. That's hard to refute. Griffey was awesome, but not like that. |
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06-10-2008, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by volfanbill I will also add that I agree Jr would be going for the HR record (or might already have it) if he not been injured so often. However, I hate "if" statements. If my aunt had ba***, she'd be my uncle. Personally I'd take Jr's Mariner days over Bonds. | i agree. based on what actually happened, you have to say Bonds. based on what could have happened, you can make a case for Griffey.
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06-10-2008, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol 'roids or no, Barries 3 year run at the plate was the best ever. You wanna talk about dominant, his OPS was like 1.4 at some points. That's obscene.
I can't stand Bonds, but he surpassed the Babe's marks for season slugging, all while being pitched around. That's hard to refute. Griffey was awesome, but not like that. | I just like the all around player better. Offensively, you are correct. Bonds' run at the plate was miraculous. Quote:
Originally Posted by doozer i agree. based on what actually happened, you have to say Bonds. based on what could have happened, you can make a case for Griffey. don't like to say balls? | figured it wouldn't be PC enough. |
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06-10-2008, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 His shelf full of Gold Gloves say otherwise. | Isn't winning a Gold Glove for playing left field sort of like being the hottest girl in a Hooters in Paducah, Kentucky? |
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06-10-2008, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by volfanbill I just like the all around player better. Offensively, you are correct. Bonds' run at the plate was miraculous. | I'm not sure that a "miracle" is what I'd call it. It wasn't exactly a phenomenon without a rational explanation. |
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