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09-27-2007, 05:44 AM
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| Great seasons that go unrealized.
Brandon Phillips has become the second 2nd Basemen to ever have a 30-30 year and is getting no love from ESPN about it. When Soriano did it they couldnt stop talking about it. Phillips also has a shot at a Gold Glove this year.
Who else has had a great season that no one is talking about? | 
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09-27-2007, 08:02 AM
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| | 13-14 in handshakes
| Micheal Young has 200+ hits for the 4th consecutive year | |
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09-27-2007, 08:16 AM
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| | a lover, not a fighter
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| Brandon Phillips is a star, no doubt.
I'm a NL guy, so I'd put a couple of Braves on there - Matt Diaz (.335 BA) and Yunel Escobar (.331). Two gamers who don't have crazy skills but consistently deliver. And reliever Peter Moylan has a 1.82 ERA. Braves' fans on VN have been singing his praises all year, but he gets very little fanfare.
A couple of shortstops - Hanley Ramirez and Jimmy Rollins - are having great seasons and probably not getting as much press as they should. JR is a 30-30 guy, and Ramirez needs 2 more dingers to be one as well.
Moises Alou has been outstanding when he's been healthy.
Maybe Bonds will move to the AL next year, and the press will spend more time covering players like this. | |
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09-27-2007, 08:24 AM
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| | Bleating Minion
| Chipper Jones is quietly having a dominant offensive year. Despite 2 trips to the DL he's going to finish with 30 HRs, 100 RBI and probably win the batting title, finish 1st in OPS and maybe win a Gold Glove. | |
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09-27-2007, 08:27 AM
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| | a lover, not a fighter
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Originally Posted by GAVol  Chipper Jones is quietly having a dominant offensive year. Despite 2 trips to the DL he's going to finish with 30 HRs, 100 RBI and probably win the batting title, finish 1st in OPS and maybe win a Gold Glove. | Not if voters saw that throw last night.
Sorry - I'm bitter. He has had a great year, and his best defensive year that I can remember. I just still can't figure out how that throw could be that far off. It wasn't within 15 feet of Tex's glove, was it? | |
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09-27-2007, 08:28 AM
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| | Bleating Minion
| He tried to tag the runner going in front of him and got out of rhythm and it just completely sailed on him. EVen as bad a throw as it was, it was really unlucky that it went into the camera well and allowed a run to score. | |
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09-27-2007, 08:33 AM
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| Those 2 runs were going to score on the next guy's base hit anyway. I've watched a lot of baseball, and I've seen some bad throws, but that was Knoblauch-esque.
Okay, I'll shut up about it. | |
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09-27-2007, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TennNC I've seen some bad throws, but that was Knoblauch-esque. | The throw definitely had a Chuck Knoblauch/Steve Sax quality to it. | |
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09-27-2007, 09:31 AM
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| | Fear The Monarchs!
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| 16-5, 3.7 ERA, 200+ strikeouts pitching for the Reds is quite an accomplishment IMO. Harang has had a slew of no decisions and a couple of losses he didn't deserve, he just didn't get any run support. | |
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09-27-2007, 10:19 AM
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| | I'm a man, I'm 40!
| I think the main reason Phillips gets overlooked is because he was a big time prospect who underachieved in both Montreal and Cleveland before landing in Cincy. From what I have seen big time prospects who don't catch fire right away and bounce around kind of get forgotten about. Another good example is Carlos Pena in Tampa, he went for 43 home runs and 118 RBIs so far this year.
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09-27-2007, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by volfanbill 16-5, 3.7 ERA, 200+ strikeouts pitching for the Reds is quite an accomplishment IMO. Harang has had a slew of no decisions and a couple of losses he didn't deserve, he just didn't get any run support. | 2 years in a row he has been great and doesnt get any love. I dont think the problem was run support though. More like an awful bullpen. | |
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09-27-2007, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jaybird_1981 I think the main reason Phillips gets overlooked is because he was a big time prospect who underachieved in both Montreal and Cleveland before landing in Cincy. From what I have seen big time prospects who don't catch fire right away and bounce around kind of get forgotten about. Another good example is Carlos Pena in Tampa, he went for 43 home runs and 118 RBIs so far this year. | It might be that but IMO the main reason is that they play on bad teams. Playing on a bad team shouldn't take away what you accomplished. Just my .02 | |
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09-27-2007, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by vols kick balls 2 years in a row he has been great and doesnt get any love. I dont think the problem was run support though. More like an awful bullpen. | Out of all the players the A's haven't held onto, Harang was the hardest for me to see go. Even over Hudson, Mulder (who was still good and injury free at the time), Tejada, and Giambi. | |
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