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06-30-2009, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Axion Jaxion  That's what they said about "The Natural" Jeff Francoeur. How's that working out for Braves fans? | Actually the knock on Francoeur has always been that he will strike out a lot, they were saying that on day one. | 
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06-30-2009, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 He'll be a decent major leaguer. Nothing more. Just another in the long line of Austin Kearns and Adam Dunns that have passed through the clubhouse in Cincinnati. Everytime he patches a hole in his swing, they just find another one. | Entirely possible, however he is already better in the field than Dunn will ever be, and hits for more power than Kearns ever did or will. A 22 year old in the majors is going to take a little time to really figure out his swing. | |
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06-30-2009, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by vols kick balls Jay Bruce and Homer Bailey are 22 and 23 respectively. Young guys like that usually don't come up and light the world on fire immediately. These guys would just now be coming out of college if they had went that route. Bruce will be fine. Homer's a little more of a wild card but still has plenty of time.
When did I ever say they were the saviors of the franchise? Especially Harang? | Bailey's problem continues to be that he nibbles when he pitches in the majors. The kid needs to go right at hitters, his stuff is fine. | |
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06-30-2009, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by emainvol A 22 year old in the majors is going to take a little time to really figure out his swing. | The ones touted to be as "great" as this guy don't seem to have taken that long. How was A Rod doing at 22? | 
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06-30-2009, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by emainvol Bailey's problem continues to be that he nibbles when he pitches in the majors. The kid needs to go right at hitters, his stuff is fine. | Agreed. He even admits this is problem. He just needs to get that bull **** out of his head and throw strikes. | |
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06-30-2009, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by vols kick balls Jay Bruce and Homer Bailey are 22 and 23 respectively. Young guys like that usually don't come up and light the world on fire immediately. These guys would just now be coming out of college if they had went that route. Bruce will be fine. Homer's a little more of a wild card but still has plenty of time.
When did I ever say they were the saviors of the franchise? Especially Harang? | News flash: If your "ace" isn't savior material, he's not an ace. | |
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06-30-2009, 10:47 PM
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| How old was Evan Longoria last year? | |
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06-30-2009, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by emainvol Actually the knock on Francoeur has always been that he will strike out a lot, they were saying that on day one. | They also said he was going to replace Chipper as the catalyst of the heart of the order for years to come. | |
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06-30-2009, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 The ones touted to be as "great" as this guy don't seem to have taken that long. How was A Rod doing at 22? | I don't think anyone expected Bruce to come up and put up A Rod numbers. | |
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06-30-2009, 10:49 PM
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| Also, how many 22 year olds can you think of that are on pace to hit 39 HRs? | |
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06-30-2009, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 News flash: If your "ace" isn't savior material, he's not an ace. | Where have I said that Harang is still an ace? He has went downhill since his '07 season. He has probably settled in as a bad #2 or good #3. | |
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06-30-2009, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by vols kick balls Also, how many 22 year olds can you think of that are on pace to hit 39 HRs? | If you want to play with stats . . .
Justin Upton is 21 years old.
.320 14 HR 45 RBI | |
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06-30-2009, 10:54 PM
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| A-Rod and Evan Longoria are once a decade talents, I for one never thought Bruce would quite be on that level.
And Justin Upton is not on pace for 39 home runs. | |
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06-30-2009, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Axion Jaxion If you want to play with stats . . .
Justin Upton is 21 years old.
.320 24 HR 45 RBI | 1. He's hit 14 HRs this year (Not 24)and is on pace for 31.
2. Longoria is on pace for 34.
That is pretty good company in terms of power numbers and hopefully the BA will take a turn for the better, can't get any worse with his abysmal BABIP, and his plate discipline continues to improve. | |
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06-30-2009, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 News flash: If your "ace" isn't savior material, he's not an ace. | Aaron Harang is the only thing that stood between the Reds and some historically bad seasons for 2 years there. | |
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