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08-15-2012, 11:56 PM
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| | Drop The Leash Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Knoxville
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Originally Posted by Vercingetorix If I were running the Nats and they were tied with the Braves, there's no way I'd shut him down. But they're up five and have maintained about that same lead the whole way. Why not get him some rest now and crank him back up before the playoffs?
There's no way in hell I wouldn't have him pitching in the postseason. | If they want to stick to the plan of shutting him down at a certain number of innings. I agree.
He's their ace, what team goes into the postseason without their ace ( by choice )? |
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08-16-2012, 12:03 AM
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| | Bleating Minion | Quote:
Originally Posted by Vercingetorix If I were running the Nats and they were tied with the Braves, there's no way I'd shut him down. But they're up five and have maintained about that same lead the whole way. Why not get him some rest now and crank him back up before the playoffs?
There's no way in hell I wouldn't have him pitching in the postseason. | I get limiting his work, but I find it comical that 6 or 7 starts in the next 6 weeks are somehow going to wreck his career. |
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08-16-2012, 12:12 AM
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| I think it's smart to want to limit him this year. They've mostly done a nice job of limiting his workload by getting him out after about six innings; only a couple of times has he thrown an egregiously high number of pitches. Down the stretch with a nice division lead would be a really nice time to save more of his workload by skipping some starts now. He is, after all, looking at potentially five or six extra high-pressure postseason starts in October.
I saw what the Braves did to Steve Avery, who could have been better than either Smoltz or Glavine. I admire what the Nats are at least trying to do. |
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08-16-2012, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GAVol I get limiting his work, but I find it comical that 6 or 7 starts in the next 6 weeks are somehow going to wreck his career. | Right now he's at 23 starts and 133 innings. The Nats have 45 games left, so Strasburg should be set to start 9 of them. Let's say the Nats go deep in the playoffs and he starts 6 extra times then. That's 15 starts; that's potentially 100 more innings, which would put him around 230 innings for the year. That's a Justin Verlander-level workload, not something you want to give a 23 year old kid coming off arm surgery. Particularly when he's one of the two or three most valuable assets in the game.
Carving six or seven starts off that when the team's got a nice lead in August and early September seems like an easy choice to me. |
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08-16-2012, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Vercingetorix If I were running the Nats and they were tied with the Braves, there's no way I'd shut him down. But they're up five and have maintained about that same lead the whole way. Why not get him some rest now and crank him back up before the playoffs?
There's no way in hell I wouldn't have him pitching in the postseason. | 100% agree. Glad they aren't taking your approach to it |
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08-16-2012, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Vercingetorix Right now he's at 23 starts and 133 innings. The Nats have 45 games left, so Strasburg should be set to start 9 of them. Let's say the Nats go deep in the playoffs and he starts 6 extra times then. That's 15 starts; that's potentially 100 more innings, which would put him around 230 innings for the year. That's a Justin Verlander-level workload, not something you want to give a 23 year old kid coming off arm surgery. Particularly when he's one of the two or three most valuable assets in the game.
Carving six or seven starts off that when the team's got a nice lead in August and early September seems like an easy choice to me. | Damn Braves - I wish they would go into a tailspin now |
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08-16-2012, 09:11 AM
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| | Bleating Minion | Quote:
Originally Posted by Vercingetorix Right now he's at 23 starts and 133 innings. The Nats have 45 games left, so Strasburg should be set to start 9 of them. Let's say the Nats go deep in the playoffs and he starts 6 extra times then. That's 15 starts; that's potentially 100 more innings, which would put him around 230 innings for the year. That's a Justin Verlander-level workload, not something you want to give a 23 year old kid coming off arm surgery. Particularly when he's one of the two or three most valuable assets in the game.
Carving six or seven starts off that when the team's got a nice lead in August and early September seems like an easy choice to me. | So skip his turn every 2nd start. Stick him in the bullpen. Option him out for 3 weeks. Limit him to 3-4 innings per start. There are any number of things they can do to keep him around 180-190 innings that don't involve screwing with team chemistry. |
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08-16-2012, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GAVol So skip his turn every 2nd start. Stick him in the bullpen. Option him out for 3 weeks. Limit him to 3-4 innings per start. There are any number of things they can do to keep him around 180-190 innings that don't involve screwing with team chemistry. | Totally agree. I think the club would be dumb to shut him down if he feels fine. Having him throw out of the bullpen or limiting his innings per start would be my top two choices.
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08-18-2012, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GAVol So skip his turn every 2nd start. Stick him in the bullpen. Option him out for 3 weeks. Limit him to 3-4 innings per start. There are any number of things they can do to keep him around 180-190 innings that don't involve screwing with team chemistry. | The bullpen makes so much sense. Give him two innings every four days or something.
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08-26-2012, 03:37 AM
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| With the dodgers trade, this sport has officially become a joke. You have three teams that are trying to buy a championship, and the rest of the teams fighting for scraps. No wonder football dwarfs baseball in popularity. Hope all three big buyers are knocked out in their first playoff series. |
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09-08-2012, 10:58 AM
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09-08-2012, 11:18 AM
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| | VN conasewer | wow I don't pretend to know what the recovery is like but I just don't get this. Seems it has been ridiculously mishandled and screws his team |
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09-08-2012, 11:29 AM
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| Trying to figure out what the whole "mental" aspect is. |
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09-08-2012, 11:31 AM
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| Braves only 6.5 back...it's not impossible.
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09-08-2012, 11:31 AM
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| | Beau Kneaus Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Knoxville
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| lol nice excuse by the Nats. You've been toying with him all season, he has rough start, and now he has mental issues. What a mess. |
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