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05-12-2012, 03:38 PM
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| | 313 Hockey
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| Most overrated players
Guys you think you think are overrated in their careers
I'll start
Dave Winfield
Tony Gwynn
Ozzie Smith
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Originally Posted by GAVol It's ok. Just a bout with premature emoderation. It happens to everybody. | | 
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05-12-2012, 03:49 PM
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| | Bleating Minion
| Pete Rose, Bruce Sutter, Nolan Ryan | |
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05-12-2012, 03:54 PM
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| Alfonso Soriano
Graig Nettles
Johnny Damon
Barry Zito | |
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05-12-2012, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GAVol Pete Rose, Bruce Sutter, Nolan Ryan | Rose and Ryan were my go tos.
Ryan howard. | |
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05-12-2012, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GAVol Pete Rose, Bruce Sutter, Nolan Ryan | Curious as to why you chose Nolan Ryan? Posted via VolNation Mobile | |
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05-12-2012, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by VolBeef88 Curious as to why you chose Nolan Ryan?
Posted via VolNation Mobile | Some people overrate no hitters and act as if he is up near the best pitcher of all time.
He isn't. | |
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05-12-2012, 04:31 PM
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| Kevin Brown | 
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05-12-2012, 04:32 PM
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| Curt Schilling | |
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05-12-2012, 04:32 PM
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| | #natitude
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| Ohhhh I dunno. Brown had a pretty good career. | |
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05-12-2012, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dbake005 Some people overrate no hitters and act as if he is up near the best pitcher of all time.
He isn't. | 5714 strike outs and 7 no hitters both MLB records. Also has the most 1 hit games and 2 hit games all time. His # is retired by 3 teams and he was 1st ballot HOF. Pretty damned good and I don't see how that guy is overrated. Posted via VolNation Mobile | |
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05-12-2012, 04:33 PM
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| | 313 Hockey
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| No one will argue my Tony Gywnn name drop?
Damn you all.
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Originally Posted by TBrown Swing hard in case you hit it. Applicable in baseball, and other facets of life.
Amirite | Quote:
Originally Posted by GAVol It's ok. Just a bout with premature emoderation. It happens to everybody. | | |
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05-12-2012, 04:33 PM
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| Easily mark McGwire. No brainer. | |
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05-12-2012, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by VolBeef88 5714 strike and 7 no hitters both MLB records. Also has the most 1 hit games and 2 hit games all time. His # is retired by 3 teams and he was 1st ballot HOF. Pretty damned good and I don't see how that guy is overrated.
Posted via VolNation Mobile | Your rebuttal was to point out no hitters?
He's not in the 'best pitcher of all time' conversation, and some act like he is. | |
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05-12-2012, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by VolBeef88 5714 strike and 7 no hitters both MLB records. Also has the most 1 hit games and 2 hit games all time. His # is retired by 3 teams and he was 1st ballot HOF. Pretty damned good and I don't see how that guy is overrated.
Posted via VolNation Mobile | There's a reason he threw seven no hitters with no perfect games in there.
He couldn't get the ball across the plate.
He has a CAREER 4.67 BB/9. His WHIP was 1.25. A very good pitcher usually has that at 1.15. His best bWAR was 7.5 and for his career 77.4.
I won't be an ingrate. He's a great pitcher, and I will say Hall of Famer.
But here's his biggest indictament. In 27 years, he NEVER won a Cy Young. At no point did the voters say "Alright, there is no doubt Nolan Ryan is the best pitcher in baseball."
That says something.
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Originally Posted by TBrown Swing hard in case you hit it. Applicable in baseball, and other facets of life.
Amirite | Quote:
Originally Posted by GAVol It's ok. Just a bout with premature emoderation. It happens to everybody. | | |
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05-12-2012, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dbake005 Your rebuttal was to point out no hitters?
He's not in the 'best pitcher of all time' conversation, and some act like he is. | You tell me why he is overrated. And if no hitters are nothing then why are they so few and far between? And it's not like the guy had 1 or 2 or even 3! The guy had 7!!! The next closest all time is 3! And he has the most 1 hit and 2 hit games of all time. Posted via VolNation Mobile | |
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