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03-06-2012, 12:16 AM
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| Bert Blyleven -vs- Tom Glavine
which guy do you think was the better pitcher and why? | 
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03-06-2012, 12:33 AM
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| Glavine.
Blyleven was a good, but from looking as his stats, how his peers voted for him, and considering how long he pitched, was not a HOF.
Glavine was the second best lefty in baseball in the 90's, and you can make a case for the best.
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03-06-2012, 06:58 AM
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03-06-2012, 07:14 AM
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| jack morris vs. john smoltz
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03-06-2012, 07:22 AM
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| Glavine
Smoltz
Offended by the comparisons. | |
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03-06-2012, 08:00 AM
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| Bert. Literally the only category Glavine has him beat in is Wins... | |
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03-06-2012, 09:28 PM
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| Glavine, easily. C'mon billy!! | |
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03-06-2012, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by trevols81 jack morris vs. john smoltz | Smoltzy by a long shot. | |
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03-06-2012, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Scotty's Flat Top Smoltzy by a long shot. | Not that game. Both pitched their asses off.
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03-07-2012, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by trevols81 jack morris vs. john smoltz | Quote:
Originally Posted by trevols81 Not that game. Both pitched their asses off. | Lots of pitchers pitch their ass off, I personally do not know of anyone else who has won over 200 games and saved over 150. While putting up over 3000 punch outs. Plus Smoltz career era is over a half run lower. Smoltz all day | |
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03-07-2012, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Scotty's Flat Top Lots of pitchers pitch their ass off, I personally do not know of anyone else who has won over 200 games and saved over 150. While putting up over 3000 punch outs. Plus Smoltz career era is over a half run lower. Smoltz all day | You can even toss in Smoltz's post season prowess and his excellent jokes used during his new broadcasting career. Oh, and he's a better golfer by a mile. | |
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03-07-2012, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by _vol You can even toss in Smoltz's post season prowess and his excellent jokes used during his new broadcasting career. Oh, and he's a better golfer by a mile. | Smoltzy is hilarious. Dude is an professional caliber golfer.. He is going to be releasing an autobiography soon. Maybe he will address the whole alleged burning himself ironing his shirt... while wearing it. | |
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03-07-2012, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Scotty's Flat Top Smoltzy is hilarious. Dude is an professional caliber golfer.. He is going to be releasing an autobiography soon. Maybe he will address the whole alleged burning himself ironing his shirt... while wearing it. | Only Smoltz could burn himself with an Iron and throw a two-hitter in the same day.  | |
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03-08-2012, 10:44 AM
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| Smoltz > Morris | |
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03-14-2012, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dbake005 Bert. Literally the only category Glavine has him beat in is Wins... | Did you ever actually see Blyleven pitch? He was a lot like Don Sutton -- a good #3 starter who hung around forever. Glavine was one of the top 10 starters in the league every year for most of his career.
If you're going to go by the numbers -- well, their ERAs were basically the same, once you normalize for their respective league averages (career ERA+ for both of them: 118). Blyleven was 37 games over .500; Glavine was 102 games over .500. Blyleven finished 3rd in Cy Young voting twice and 4th once; Glavine won two Cy Youngs, finished second twice, and finished third twice. No idea why anybody would pick Blyleven. | |
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