Active Players to Cooperstown

[zjcvols]

Only players with ten years experience: Yes or no?

Chipper Jones

Roy Halladay

C.C. Sabathia

Derek Jeter

Omar Vizquel

Jim Thome

Mariano Rivera

Albert Pujols

Alex Rodriguez

Todd Helton

Vlad Guerrero

[zjcvols]

Mine answers:

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

[NYYVol]

Originally Posted by zjcvols

Only players with ten years experience: Yes or no?

Chipper Jones yes

Roy Halladay yes

C.C. Sabathia no

Derek Jeter yes

Omar Vizquel no

Jim Thome yes

Mariano Rivera yes

Albert Pujols yes

Alex Rodriguez undecided

Todd Helton yes

Vlad Guerrero no

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Originally Posted by zjcvols

Only players with ten years experience: Yes or no?

Chipper Jones Yes

Roy Halladay Yes

C.C. Sabathia Yes

Derek Jeter Yes

Omar Vizquel No

Jim Thome Yes

Mariano Rivera Yes

Albert Pujols Yes

Alex Rodriguez Yes

Todd Helton No

Vlad Guerrero

.

[zjcvols]

Originally Posted by NYYVol

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No C.C.? And you like Helton over Vlad?

[NYYVol]

Originally Posted by zjcvols

No C.C.? And you like Helton over Vlad?

Just got a feeling c.c. will not be that great for that long.

Scratch my comment on Vlad. His ba was much higher than I first looked. Career .318 is better than when I googled and it said .273.
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[zjcvols]

Originally Posted by NYYVol

Just got a feeling c.c. will not be that great for that long.

Scratch my comment on Vlad. His ba was much higher than I first looked. Career .318 is better than when I googled and it said .273.
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Which is crazy because he swung at almost everything.

I don't know. C.C. is still a top five pitcher in baseball. And has been that way for a while now.

[NYYVol]

He's still a very good season and a half from 200 wins.

[zjcvols]

Originally Posted by NYYVol

He's still a very good season and a half from 200 wins.

And with his ERA, that should do it unless he falls off the map completely (which is possible with his weight).

Dear God, Vlad was amazing. Before he got injured in 2009 with the Angles, through 1998-2008, this was his season average

35 Homers
112 RBI
15 SB
35 two baggers

A line of .325/.392/.581
An OPS of .972 and OPS of 149+

No doubt HOF in my mind

[zjcvols]

Helton's prime:

30 homers
108 RBI
45 two baggers

A line of .332/.432/.585

An OPS of 1.017 and OPS+ 144

[JTrainDavis]

It's impossible to handicap guys for the Hall mid career. It's a disservice to both the Hall and the player.

[NYYVol]

Originally Posted by JTrainDavis

It's impossible to handicap guys for the Hall mid career. It's a disservice to both the Hall and the player.

Agreed. Too many factors.

[NYYVol]

Originally Posted by zjcvols

And with his ERA, that should do it unless he falls off the map completely (which is possible with his weight).

Dear God, Vlad was amazing. Before he got injured in 2009 with the Angles, through 1998-2008, this was his season average

35 Homers
112 RBI
15 SB
35 two baggers

A line of .325/.392/.581
An OPS of .972 and OPS of 149+

No doubt HOF in my mind

I, for some reason, didn't think his numbers were that good.

[zjcvols]

Here's what is going to kill Helton though in my mind:

Home: .355/.452/.623
Away: .292/.392/.481

Those are hard to ignore

[JTrainDavis]

If Roy, A-Rod, Pujols retired tomorrow they'd be in.