Bammer hires Patriots TE coach Brian Daboll as the new offensive coordinator.

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So Saban goes and dips ino the NFL for a very important position and we promote within. Excellent.
 
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So Saban goes and dips ino the NFL for a very important position and we promote within. Excellent.

So after teaching proper touchdown spiking technique for the past three years he's going to now try to teach Tom Brady clone Jalen Hurts how to be a pocket passer?

Too bad we have to settle for a college coach who's been coaching college kids for the past decade to play in college offenses. Meh. We're doomed.
 
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So after teaching proper touchdown spiking technique for the past three years he's going to now try to teach Tom Brady clone Jalen Hurts how to be a pocket passer?

Too bad we have to settle for a college coach who's been coaching college kids for the past decade to play in college offenses. Meh. We're doomed.


New England has continued to feature an offense with spread concepts more so than most NFL teams. They have always played with pace. They don't ask Brady to run the RPO because he can't run, not because they can't coach it. Only an idiot would go away from the strength of what elite players give you.
 
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So after teaching proper touchdown spiking technique for the past three years he's going to now try to teach Tom Brady clone Jalen Hurts how to be a pocket passer?

Too bad we have to settle for a college coach who's been coaching college kids for the past decade to play in college offenses. Meh. We're doomed.

Never said we were doomed. I am just pointing out what elite coaches do when hiring assistants.
 
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So, we are supposed to be envious of a guy who has never had any real success as an OC simply because he has NFL experience? Derek Dooley had NFL experience, Mike Shula, Ron Zook, Lane Kiffin, Ed Oregeron all had/have NFL experience. With the exception of Lane Kiffin most would not be excited to have either of them as a coordinator on either side of the ball. This hire just shows you there aren't a lot of slam dunk OC hires to be made.
 
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So, we are supposed to be envious of a guy who has never had any real success as an OC simply because he has NFL experience? Derek Dooley had NFL experience, Mike Shula, Ron Zook, Lane Kiffin, Ed Oregeron all had/have NFL experience. With the exception of Lane Kiffin most would not be excited to have either of them as a coordinator on either side of the ball. This hire just shows you there aren't a lot of slam dunk OC hires to be made.


You have to know your business, regardless of hype. Talent can be star-driven but it's still no substitute for knowing a football player when you see him. Nature of football, nature of life.
 
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He never coached in college, what makes you so sure he can be successful as an OC at a college level?

Bama won a national championship with Doug Nussmeier as OC. Ask Florida fans how impressive that is. If you coach for Nick Saban, chances are you're going to be successful.
 
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Totally different.

Not really. People assume Saban's assistants will be successful while working for him because they always are. That he reached out to the NFL only proves that Saban will always look for the best guy, and not simply promote a "next-in-line" already on staff.
 
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Not really. People assume Saban's assistants will be successful while working for him because they always are. That he reached out to the NFL only proves that Saban will always look for the best guy, and not simply promote a "next-in-line" already on staff.

You're contradicting yourself. You said yourself, if you coach for Saban, chances are you're going to be successful. You then say, people assume Saban's assistants will be successful working for him because they always are.

He reached out to the NFL this time for his OC. Who was Nussmeier before Saban and who was McElwain before Saban?

Chances are, the new guy will be successful because he's coaching Saban's recruits just like the three OCs before him at Alabama.

That doesn't prove that Saban will always look for the best guy. It just proves that Saban still has the best recruits and damn near anybody will successful by association.
 
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You're contradicting yourself. You said yourself, if you coach for Saban, chances are you're going to be successful. You then say, people assume Saban's assistants will be successful working for him because they always are.

What is contradictory about that?
 
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What is contradictory about that?

Chances are, if you coach for Saban, you're going to be successful. Your words. I also agree.

You then say people assume because you coach for Saban that you will be successful.

Is the new OC going to be successful because he coaches for Saban or because Saban looked for the best OC ? Me thinks it's more because the new OC coaches for the guy who recruits the best of the best.
 
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Chances are, if you coach for Saban, you're going to be successful. Your words. I also agree.

You then say people assume because you coach for Saban that you will be successful.

Is the new OC going to be successful because he coaches for Saban or because Saban looked for the best OC ? Me thinks it's more because the new OC coaches for the guy who recruits the best of the best.

Yes, working for Saban makes it easy to be successful. However, Saban had shown, time and again, that he is always going to look for the guy who will do the best with what Saban wants to do. Saban could just promote from within everytime and backfill the positional roles. But that would be adding no fresh ideas or new approaches.
 
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Yes, working for Saban makes it easy to be successful. However, Saban had shown, time and again, that he is always going to look for the guy who will do the best with what Saban wants to do. Saban could just promote from within everytime and backfill the positional roles. But that would be adding no fresh ideas or new approaches.

The guy that will do best with Saban wants to do is not necessarily a great OC hire.

Hell, Nussmeier and McElwain were both successful under Saban. Both of them together at Florida have been a hot mess offensively.


Is Kiffin proof that Saban will hire one who best does want Saban wants to do?
 

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