More SEC expansion talk ???

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So David Climer found a post on this or another message board and cut copied and pasted it.
 
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I'd like to see it: (I realize Tenn. is in the easiest division, but I divided it geographically of course)

Division 1:
1. Arkansas
2. Missouri
3. Texas A & M
4. Mississippi State

Division 2:
1. Tennessee
2. Ole Miss
3. Vanderbilt
4. Kentucky

Division 3:
1. LSU
2. Georgia
3. Alabama
4. Auburn

Division 4:
1. Florida
2. South Carolina
3. Virginia Tech
4. NC State
 
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I'd like to see it: (I realize Tenn. is in the easiest division, but I divided it geographically of course)

Division 1:
1. Arkansas
2. Missouri
3. Texas A & M
4. LSU

Division 2:
1. Tennessee
2. Georgia
3. Vanderbilt
4. Kentucky

Division 3:
1. Ole Miss
2. Mississippi St
3. Alabama
4. Auburn

Division 4:
1. Florida
2. South Carolina
3. Virginia Tech
4. NC State

Makes much more sense.
 
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Division 2 is incredibly unbalanced there

And LSU and likely needs to be in division 1 than 3
 
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Better...but do UGA and UF need to be in the same division though?

I thought about that. You can really concern yourself with geography, or you can seek to maintain rivalries. If it's the latter, either switch UK and UF or UGA and VPI.
 
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1)Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Virginia Tech.2) Mississippi St., Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn. 3)LSU, Texas A&M,Arkansas, Missouri 4)N.C. State, Florida, S. Carolina, Georgia. Just another option for those 2 additional schools divisions.
 
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Makes much more sense.

This is best one imo but I enjoy all the different scenarios. I definitely see being as evenly distributed across board as possible. No way Tennessee gets lumped in with 3 worst football schools. That would be way to easy.
 
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1)Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Virginia Tech.2) Mississippi St., Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn. 3)LSU, Texas A&M,Arkansas, Missouri 4)N.C. State, Florida, S. Carolina, Georgia. Just another option for those 2 schools divisions.

good job, this would make a lot of sense. Def the best so far in the thread.

Appalachian Division:

Va Tech
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

(Taking name suggestions) Division:

NC State
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida

Deep South Division:

Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Miss St

Delta Division:

LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
 
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good job, this would make a lot of sense. Def the best so far in the thread.

Appalachian Division:

Va Tech
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

(Taking name suggestions) Division:

NC State
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida

Deep South Division:

Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Miss St

Delta Division:

LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri

Lol I didnt think it was as good as Bamawriters but hey thanks.
 
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Here's how I'd do it. In parentheses are three permanent rivals who those teams would play every year. It's explained more below.

SEC North

Tennessee (Florida/Alabama/LSU)
Virginia Tech (Georgia/Auburn/Arkansas)
Kentucky (South Carolina/Mississippi State/Texas A&M)
Vanderbilt (NC State/Mississippi/Missouri)

SEC East

Florida (Tennessee/Alabama/LSU)
Georgia (Virginia Tech/Auburn/Texas A&M)
South Carolina (Kentucky/Mississippi/Arkansas)
NC State (Vanderbilt/Mississippi State/Missouri)

SEC Central

Alabama (Tennessee/Florida/LSU)
Auburn (Virginia Tech/Georgia/Arkansas)
Mississippi (Vanderbilt/South Carolina/Texas A&M)
Mississippi State (Kentucky/NC State/Missouri)

SEC West

LSU (Tennessee/Florida/Alabama)
Arkansas (Virginia Tech/Georgia/Auburn)
Texas A&M (Kentucky/Georgia/Mississippi)
Missouri (Vanderbilt/NC State/Mississippi State)

9 conference games:

3 division games
3 permanent rivals
3 other teams from one division

This allows all 16 SEC teams to play each other in a 3 year span. It also preserves pretty much every rivalry that already exists and establishes a balanced schedule for every team in the division.

Ideally, I'd love to see a 4 team conference playoff. But a pod system would work here as well.

Here's an example of how a typical UT schedule would look.

Florida
@ Mississippi State
@ LSU
Alabama
Mississippi
@ Auburn
Virginia Tech
@ Vanderbilt
Kentucky
 
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Tennessee has to play cross rivals Florida, Alabama & LSU every year? Thats rough swap LSU for Missouri or similar.
 
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It's crappy all the way around IMO. Takes away any sort of semblance to a balanced schedule.
 
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UTRavens,

Here's how I'd do scheduling. This is based on my divisions above.

-3 games inside division
-4 games against another division
-1 game against a permanent rival
-The South's (AL, AU, OM, MSU) permanent rivals are all in the North (TN, UGA, VU, UK respectively). The West's (A&M, UM, Ark, LSU) are all in the East (USCe, VPI, NC St, UF respectively).
-During the years when the North plays the South, and the East plays the West, each team plays one game against a secondary rival (OM-LSU, MSU-UM, AL-A&M, AU-Ark, TN-VPI, UGA-UF, VU-USCe, UK-NC St)

So let's take Tennessee for example. Here's three years worth of games:

1: UGA, UK, Vandy, Bama, UF, USCe, NC St, VPI
2: UGA, UK, Vandy, Bama, LSU, A&M, Mizzou, Ark
3: UGA, UK, Vandy, Bama, Auburn, Ole Miss, MSU, VPI

Every team plays the other 15 teams at least once every three years.

If my scheme doesn't pit UF against UGA or Tennessee enough, then divisions can be shuffled.
 
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I'd like to see it: (I realize Tenn. is in the easiest division, but I divided it geographically of course)

Division 1:
1. Arkansas
2. Missouri
3. Texas A & M
4. Mississippi State

Division 2:
1. Tennessee
2. Ole Miss
3. Vanderbilt
4. Kentucky

Division 3:
1. LSU
2. Georgia
3. Alabama
4. Auburn

Division 4:
1. Florida
2. South Carolina
3. Virginia Tech
4. NC State

Switch Georgia and Ole Miss.
 
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My SEC plan:

Division 1: Georgia, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Kentucky

Division 2: Florida, Virginia Tech, NC State, South Carolina

Division 3: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Missouri

Division 4: Miss State, LSU, TAMU, Arkansas

Each division has a home-and-home. Then play a team in each division once, along with a permanent rivalry outside the division. That gives you ten conference games, along with two non-conference. Then a four team SEC playoff for the title.

So UT's schedule:

Kentucky, home and home
Georgia, home and home
Vanderbilt, home and home
Division 2 opponent
Division 3 opponent
Division 4 opponent
Alabama once
 
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Might as well have the Vols also play the Patriots, and Colts every year too. No thanks

Here's how I'd do it. In parentheses are three permanent rivals who those teams would play every year. It's explained more below.

SEC North

Tennessee (Florida/Alabama/LSU)
Virginia Tech (Georgia/Auburn/Arkansas)
Kentucky (South Carolina/Mississippi State/Texas A&M)
Vanderbilt (NC State/Mississippi/Missouri)

SEC East

Florida (Tennessee/Alabama/LSU)
Georgia (Virginia Tech/Auburn/Texas A&M)
South Carolina (Kentucky/Mississippi/Arkansas)
NC State (Vanderbilt/Mississippi State/Missouri)

SEC Central

Alabama (Tennessee/Florida/LSU)
Auburn (Virginia Tech/Georgia/Arkansas)
Mississippi (Vanderbilt/South Carolina/Texas A&M)
Mississippi State (Kentucky/NC State/Missouri)

SEC West

LSU (Tennessee/Florida/Alabama)
Arkansas (Virginia Tech/Georgia/Auburn)
Texas A&M (Kentucky/Georgia/Mississippi)
Missouri (Vanderbilt/NC State/Mississippi State)

9 conference games:

3 division games
3 permanent rivals
3 other teams from one division

This allows all 16 SEC teams to play each other in a 3 year span. It also preserves pretty much every rivalry that already exists and establishes a balanced schedule for every team in the division.

Ideally, I'd love to see a 4 team conference playoff. But a pod system would work here as well.

Here's an example of how a typical UT schedule would look.

Florida
@ Mississippi State
@ LSU
Alabama
Mississippi
@ Auburn
Virginia Tech
@ Vanderbilt
Kentucky
 
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I thought about that. You can really concern yourself with geography, or you can seek to maintain rivalries. If it's the latter, either switch UK and UF or UGA and VPI.
Florida and Georgia being in the same division makes sense from both a geographical standpoint and from a rivalry standpoint.
 
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Why would the SEC want Va Tech? And why would any of the NC schools leave without the others?
 
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Why would the SEC want Va Tech? And why would any of the NC schools leave without the others?

1. It's a state we're not in. They have a solid fanbase. They could help us in the DC market.
2. They might not. But NC St might want out from under the thumb of UNC/Duke.
 
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